Insecure capitalist arrogant SonyMatt (a developer and insider) posted on Resetera that the scale of Sony's moneyhatting will be, and I quote, "shocking".
Just do what Microsoft is doing and funnel money from steam usersI wonder if the PS5 is more expensive than the Xbox Series X and Sony is locking in these exclusives== because they don't want a repeat of what happened with the early life of the PS3?
Just do what Microsoft is doing and funnel money from steam usersI wonder if the PS5 is more expensive than the Xbox Series X and Sony is locking in these exclusives== because they don't want a repeat of what happened with the early life of the PS3?
Don't you get drops when you quit the game?Just how long do you have to idle Hitman 2!? I'm at like 9 hours and still have 4 cards to drop!
Yeah been trying that but it doesn't work. I just put it into the blacklist just to idle all my other games. Not sure why some games are super slow to idle.Arrogant Sony has turned into Arrogant Sony Fan.
Don't you get drops when you quit the game?
Did you ever install free version? You must remove that from account before you can get card drops. (I'd guess this is oversight when Valve disabled card drops for free games).Just how long do you have to idle Hitman 2!? I'm at like 9 hours and still have 4 cards to drop!
Unfortunately it's much easier and faster to throw money at something someone already made instead of using the money to make something from scratch.I hope the industry goes after "this third party game is exclusive because it is funded by us" rather than "this game is exclusive because we pay for exclusivity".
If Sony funded a Vanquish 2 or whatever dead game, I would be totally cool with them. But this is obviously not the case here, nor Sony would fund any "presumed commercial failure" in the first place.
Just how long do you have to idle Hitman 2!? I'm at like 9 hours and still have 4 cards to drop!
Thing is I've gotten like 3 cards already, but its taking super long! I guess it is because it has so many cards.Did you ever install free version? You must remove that from account before you can get card drops. (I'd guess this is oversight when Valve disabled card drops for free games).
Dont have a PC good enough.T_T
Don't idle the damn game! Just play it
Good news for you. It's available on Geforce NOWThing is I've gotten like 3 cards already, but its taking super long! I guess it is because it has so many cards.
Dont have a PC good enough.T_T
Ah yes good point!Good news for you. It's available on Geforce NOW
If IO hasn't changed the card drop rate since 2 months ago, the current drop rate should be 120 minutes per card.Thing is I've gotten like 3 cards already, but its taking super long! I guess it is because it has so many cards.
Dont have a PC good enough.T_T
Sadly I just don't see this getting much pushback in the console space. Too many people who either don't know, don't care or activity welcome all this.Sony looked at all the backfire EGS was getting and thought "we need to get some of that! Even bad PR is PR!".
Yeah I was being hopeful.Unfortunately it's much easier and faster to throw money at something someone already made instead of using the money to make something from scratch.
They brought this onto themselves. they had a quite decent Multiplayer/GAAS-focused developer in Sony Online Entertainment. But because they were like "Ugh I get PC-cooties" they underfunded and then sold that Studio.Microsoft having a whole bunch of different studios is definitely a big reason to Sony's new moves, but I expect more current games to be a much, much bigger threat to Sony in general.
I may not care much about them, but Microsoft has found a massive success in the GAAS world, with Sea of Thieves and now Grounded, they have big, popular multiplayer games, and those are by far the most important thing to lock players in an ecosystem... or not quite since they also have Steam's player base, it's the worst of both worlds as far as Sony's concerned.
They may say that they really want to support single player, test focused games, but you bet your ass that's because their multiplayer attempts haven't been so successful, like Street Fighter V.
They'd love of piece of the GAAS pie, I expect more money hats directed toward those, not unlike what they did with Destiny 2.
2game is region restricted for me xoHZD already 33€ on 2game. How long until 10€
Close to regional pricing at my place nowHZD already 33€ on 2game. How long until 10€
Spot-on. The only way to fight moneyhats is moneyhats of your own while the market no longer rewards customer-facing features but instead business deals and deep pockets. There is no scenario in which the customer wins when moneyhats are involved.This is what bothers me about all the Sony moneyhats, MS pretty much have to do the same to compete with it and it just creates a world where everyone loses no matter what system they have. But yeah seeing the way some fanboys are behaving I can understand wanting them to get some measure of pushback.
That's why we never pre-order video games, not with this industry .I've tinkered with Horizon for an hour already and yeah, gonna wait for a week to see if a patch can fix this. If not, refund it is.
Edit: This is worrying though:
Hopefully the pc version has good mod support with that Tom Braider engine. Spider-man needs to be modded into the game before it releases on Playstation next yearThe Avengers beta makes my PS4P sound like a jet going off and the framerate makes the game feel really janky.
Hopefully the PC open beta is better.
This is the first time that this is happening. I've refunded multiple pre-ordered games in the past, it always worked.That's why we never pre-order video games, not with this industry .
I also wouldn't paint Microsoft in a positive light on PC. GamePass is nice value, but that doesn't overshadow UWP, encrypted local game files and a model that is used as an excuse for incredibly shitty prices and regional pricing on Steam. No, I am not over FS2020's 60$ > 70€ conversion.
Is there even a slight chance of modding to happen in an online only service game like Avengers?Hopefully the pc version has good mod support with that Tom Braider engine. Spider-man needs to be modded into the game before it releases on Playstation next year
Along with mods for all other missing Avengers characters.
From what I read you can play everything singleplayer and game even has AI teammates. The loot seems to be pointless. Skill upgrades and costumes seem to be the main stuff. I don't know if its always online.Is there even a slight chance of modding to happen in an online only service game like Avengers?
Console War, Console War never Changes.Checked moneyhat thread out of curiosity and oh boy it's full blown console war.
It is always the same.Checked moneyhat thread out of curiosity and oh boy it's full blown console war.
With how quick regional pricing changes here, I acted fast. Turns out HZD didn't change for me (Unlike you SoT!!)That's why we never pre-order video games
I stopped reading the thread. I think Im getting emotionally hurt knowing other people enjoy knowing other people not being able to enjoy the same games as them.Checked moneyhat thread out of curiosity and oh boy it's full blown console war.
from what i hear everything , but endgame raids is playable offline with AIIs there even a slight chance of modding to happen in an online only service game like Avengers?
Yeah we pretty much have one active thread at the time here haha. Not that I mind, I'm old and need time to keep up!I assume it is a thread on another forum, because I cannot find any mean thread with mean people in the "metagaming" part of this forum.
Good.
I won't ever understand this.I stopped reading the thread. I think Im getting emotionally hurt knowing other people enjoy knowing other people not being able to enjoy the same games as them.
Good point! And I certainly didn't mean to lord over nor gloat at anyone who had pre-ordered. I'm really sorry for what happened. It's just that I think this makes the case why it's such a loosing proposition.With how quick regional pricing changes here, I acted fast. Turns out HZD didn't change for me (Unlike you SoT!!)
Can't. FFXIV new patch in a few days.P[ay some PC games and ignore the console warriors. I am pretty sure we will eventually get everything that once been an exclusive.
Btw, I recommend Phantasy Star Online 2. That game is so addictive that it even helps me forget problems irl.
I was thinking which one I should have started. Well, then I learn PSO2 is free to play and releases earlier than FFXIV's free trial expansion...Can't. FFXIV new patch in a few days.
Sega Emphasizes PC (Steam) and Console Ports After Persona 4 Golden Success, Talking With Platform Holders for New Games
Sega Sammy recently released their Fiscal Year Ending March 2021 first quarter financial results, consisting of the period from April to June 2020 inclusively. Alongside this, an investor questions and answers presentation was held on August 5th, and Sega has released it publicly today.
The respondents for the Q&A were Haruki Satomi (President and Group COO) and Koichi Fukazawa (Senior Executive Vice President and Group CFO). After discussing the strong performance of Steam regarding Sega’s repeat sales for the fiscal quarter—most effective in the West—an investor asked about the recently released Persona 4 Golden on PC.
Q: “Persona 4 the Golden” has been selling well on Steam, but do you have any plans to sell newly released games on Steam as well?
A: We remastered “Persona 4 the Golden”, a title previously sold on the PlayStation Vita, and released it for sale on Steam this fiscal year. Because of the game’s critical acclaim and its low selling price, sales were much stronger than expected. We will continue to actively promote porting previously released titles to Steam and new platforms. We are also negotiating with platform holders for new games in the future, and we’re considering ways to sell under favorable conditions for each title. Among them are measures such as preparing PC versions of the titles from the beginning, with multi-platform releases in mind.
Both game are quite different and FFXIV can feel really slow after PSO2. If you are newer player go with whatever suits you moreI was thinking which one I should have started. Well, then I learn PSO2 is free to play and releases earlier than FFXIV's free trial expansion...
I don't think this was posted yet?
Sega Emphasizes PC (Steam) and Console Ports After Persona 4 Golden Success, Talking With Platform Holders for New Games - Persona Central
In a Sega Sammy investors Q&A presentation, they emphasize the importance of porting older games to PC via Steam, as well as to new consoles.personacentral.com
I wonder what this means. Exclusive contract is really a thing?We are also negotiating with platform holders for new games in the future, and we’re considering ways to sell under favorable conditions for each title.
The usage of "low selling price" makes me feel like they think they could've squeezed more money out of it at a higher price.I don't think this was posted yet?
Sega Emphasizes PC (Steam) and Console Ports After Persona 4 Golden Success, Talking With Platform Holders for New Games - Persona Central
In a Sega Sammy investors Q&A presentation, they emphasize the importance of porting older games to PC via Steam, as well as to new consoles.personacentral.com