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Trisolarian

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I'm kind of worried now about some of the digital games I own on PS4 like God of War and Bloodborne. When I pick up a PS5 will those games just run at enhanced settings automatically or will they force me to buy additional versions of these games in order to see improvements.

It really sucks that its August and this type of information in unclear. The messaging for next gen consoles has been a mess. And this Control upgrade bs could set an awful precedent. No smart delivery but you can have dumb delivery. :shrugblob:
Next gen over all is making me nervous. I wouldn't advise anyone to be an early adopter this time around, despite BC promises.
 
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Next gen over all is making me nervous. I wouldn't advise anyone to be an early adopter this time around, despite BC promises.
The craziest thing about this next gen BC is that it is supposedly able to tell the difference between games eligible for smart delivery. And if its not eligible then the new consoles will just emulate vanilla settings from previous gen somehow? (I guess???). Or maybe it won't run the non eligible game at all. Its confusing. Its like an actual smart barrier that MS and Sony helped create to fuck over people at the discretion of the devs. Its really slimey and evil.
 
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The talk about piracy reminded me about game rips.

Wasn't that weird? You willingly ripped out movies, story, music, maybe even sound to get a smaller filesize. Talk about corrupting the game to experience the "gameplay".
 

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Go to bed wondering why Control's Steam release still hasn't been acknowledged, wake up to the announcement. Cool! I was hoping for a complete edition with the DLC, so that's great to hear. Now let's see about that launch discount.
 

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The talk about piracy reminded me about game rips.

Wasn't that weird? You willingly ripped out movies, story, music, maybe even sound to get a smaller filesize. Talk about corrupting the game to experience the "gameplay".
I think some people appreciated the smaller download. I imagine big downloads can be troublesome in some parts of the world.
 

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It really sucks that its August and this type of information in unclear. The messaging for next gen consoles has been a mess. And this Control upgrade bs could set an awful precedent. No smart delivery but you can have dumb delivery. :shrugblob:
Completely agree about the upcoming gen -- releasing game consoles during a pandemic could have been a positive for both companies and people -- oh, excuse me, "consumers". But it's just been a wtf all around. Both MS and Sony should probably have delayed rather than continue with whatever this is.

And I'm probably in a minority here, but everything about that Control game has been such a shitshow, and I'm beyond exhausted hearing about it. It's one of those games that I wish I could completely delete from my own reality. I don't care how good it is; I'll never touch it lol.
 

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I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling Control won't be the last game to make Xbox SeX and PS5 owners to repay...
Nope. Especially on Xbox SeX 😮 :p

If that's what it takes to shake some people out of their apathy, so be it. After all, it's just business, right?
It is a business, don't expect nice things from large companies without paying them money. If they do something nice its because they want you to give them money, if they do it for free it because they want money from you later....... Hence why I'm not a fan of a large company but I like certain products and don't trust them moving forward.
 

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I just got the press release that Control Ultimate Edition is coming to Steam on August 27. It will include both The Foundation and AWE expansions for $40.

That's...an excellent price point IMO.

Prolly updated.

Oh damn, best case scenario then. I was expecting 505 to use the Ultimate Edition as an excuse to charge full price and was really hoping for a 50% launch discount like other EGS exclusives had. Definitely getting it day one!
 

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Oh damn, best case scenario then. I was expecting 505 to use the Ultimate Edition as an excuse to charge full price and was really hoping for a 50% launch discount like other EGS exclusives had. Definitely getting it day one!
While NOT EXCLUSIVE is always the best route, this isn't terrible. Game is discounted plus two expansions.

I can't complain too much.
 

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It is a business, don't expect nice things from large companies without paying them money. If they do something nice its because they want you to give them money, if they do it for free it because they want money from you later....... Hence why I'm not a fan of a large company but I like certain products and don't trust them moving forward.
You are preaching to the choir my friend, as others can attest I am one of the biggest proponents of treating every developer and publisher as a business and only caring about your interests as a gamer and customer.
 

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Oh, Control Ultimate is 40 bucks? Veeeeeeeeeeeery nice. It's a pity there's no way my rig can run it for now but hopefully I'll get the good coinflip with 505 regional pricing.
 
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I dunno why everyone is getting excited. That preorder doesn't have a price. Still a fair chance they charge $60 IMO.
 

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Do we know if Edge of Eternity has a target release date ?
[We still have 3 more chapters to deliver and we aim to do so within the next months. We intend to take advantage of the first days of 2021 to polish the game, work on our console versions and deliver a full game to everyone by next Spring.]”
It's also the last sale price before price increase this week
 
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Regarding the issue of EGS and piracy. My personal choice is to not play those games at all or play them once they become available on Steam at a hefty discount. That is the value that I assign to those games. I have also said that people should do things that bring them joy because the world is a generally shitty place. So if you really feel that playing a game will bring you joy and make your life a bit better, I am not going to judge you for buying a game on EGS. I feel the same with piracy. I wouldn't do it and I don't condone it but I won't judge anyone for it because it is not my place to do so.

I will also not shed a single tear for developers and publishers that screw over their customers and then cry about lost sales. Piracy has been a largely solved issue on PC for many years now. If they want to risk making it in an issue again, that's their prerogative.
 
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Small teams and passion projects? They're engaged with the community because they have to be to survive.
Or because they actually want to do the right thing.

Honestly, the "it's just capitalism" excuse doesn't work for me if you want me to give you my money for an entertainment product. I'm not going to jump through hoops for some business unless they can make a more compelling argument than that.
 

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Regarding the issue of EGS and piracy. My personal choice is to not play those games at all or play them once they become available on Steam at a hefty discount. That is the value that I assign to those games. I have also said that people should do things that bring them joy because the world is a generally shitty place. So if you really feel like playing a game will bring you joy and make your life a bit better, I am not going to judge you for buying a game on EGS. I feel the same with piracy. I wouldn't do it and I don't condone it but I won't judge anyone for it because it is not my place to do so.

I will also not shed a single tear for developers and publishers that screw over their customers and then cry about lost sales. Piracy has been a largely solved issue on PC for many years now. If they want to risk making it in an issue again, that's their prerogative.
Very well said Number One. When hundreds of thousands of people with hundreds of games in their library suddenly start talking about piracy, or refuse to buy a long awaited game for a full year, there's a problem with the industry, rather than with all these people.
 

Trisolarian

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You are preaching to the choir my friend, as others can attest I am one of the biggest proponents of treating every developer and publisher as a business and only caring about your interests as a gamer and customer.
True.

I see piracy as being a bit against our interest as a consumer, as I've been a bit scared by the 07-10 horror days of PC gaming and the hoops they gleefully made us jump through just to launch the damn games. I just think that piracy comes to back to bite us in the rear later on.

I do get where people say that piracy is a service problem and it can be for sure.
Or because they actually want to do the right thing.

Honestly, the "it's just capitalism" excuse doesn't work for me if you want me to give you my money for an entertainment product. I'm not going to jump through hoops for some business unless they can make a more compelling argument than that.
Ahhh..... I mean I think that for many small devs, its food first and right thing later. Fuck, I used to work for a Law Firm that dealt a lot with foreclosure suits, there were time when I thought "I'm working for an enemy" but realized that A: We're all getting used by everyone else B: Someone else would do it if not me/the Firm C: Most of the cases ended up in some kind of modification/repayment plan.

So how do get around that hypocrisy after my history and the whole Piracy thing (Piracy by an individual a lesser crime than being complicit in a system where people are actively made homeless and crushed by the power of Billion dollar banks)? Well, on more reflection, it isn't a "this is the right thing" its "I don't think anything good is going come out of this for my hobby". So fantomena , I apologize if you felt it was a moral attack, turns out on reflection, I was more annoyed bc "this is the thing killing or endangering XX" and I knew that Control didn't sell well.
 
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The talk about piracy reminded me about game rips.
reminded me of the article i read recentlz about some person on the high seas who till this day tries to repack games with best compression possible and rips additional stuff like langs and make them optional
That said, these same companies could also learn from the success of repacks. According to xxx, publishers could take a lesson or two on effective compression, so customers don’t have to waste bandwidth.

“Hire just one person, who understands the compression,” is her message to publishers. “And make your games so they could be easily updated with additional patch-files, without full data rebuilding.”

“For example, Unreal Engine supports patching natively. But 99% of developers don’t use it. They just rebuild the whole game all over again and then users in Steam download another 50 GB update. Really, you even have the tools to do it for you, love your users, they PAY for your games!”
the UE part is quite shocking to me
 

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Just gonna throw in my two cents and say that yeah, EGS deals don't justify piracy in any way, shape or form. Buy it on the EGS or wait for the Steam release. Any rationalization for piracy is the same old bullshit it's always been, the EGS doesn't change that.

I've said it before but I just have too much of a backlog to lose sleep over EGS exclusives. Control was the big one for me and I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't tempted to pirate it early on but there's always something else to play while I wait. Very few games are so special that I absolutely must play them immediately.
 

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Minimum Spec:

OS: Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: i3-4160 or AMD equivalent
8GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 950 / AMD 270 (min 2GB video ram)
DirectX 12
75GB HDD space

Recommended Spec:

Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K, 3.4 Ghz or AMD Ryzen 51600, 3.2 Ghz
16GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB or AMD Radeon RX 480, 8GB.
DirectX 12
110GB SSD space

Taken from Lashley from Era.
 
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Anyone played Ashen and can tell me if it is worth getting in a sale? Really trying to not start Bloodborne on my base PS4 because I am feeling a Souls itch. While I don’t think it will be as good as the original I was always intrigued by the growing settlement and I like the artstyle.
 
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I was looking forward for this game, after all the debacle, I will be waiting to buy for under $20, won't pay more than that.
Charging the same on PC as the PS4 version is some bullshit.
This has ‘humble bundle’ written all over it to me
 
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Minimum Spec:

OS: Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: i3-4160 or AMD equivalent
8GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 950 / AMD 270 (min 2GB video ram)
DirectX 12
75GB HDD space

Recommended Spec:

Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K, 3.4 Ghz or AMD Ryzen 51600, 3.2 Ghz
16GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB or AMD Radeon RX 480, 8GB.
DirectX 12
110GB SSD space

Taken from Lashley from Era.
Those are some pretty low end recommend specs, i don't know if I should be happy about this or worried it's an abomination
 
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