|OT| Girls’ Frontline 2: Exilium | Tsundere Hitman (Dec 26)
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Or, X-coom
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Neural Cloud collab event confirmed. I haven't played PNC so not sure what to expect. Probably Persica?
They could add costumes for the dolls that appear in both games, like Centauressi, Dayan, Jiagyu and Clukay, or the alternate weapons they use in PNC
They could also add some of the PNC originals with their unique weapons/skillsets adapted into the GF2 gameplay
Or they could add some of the dolls that appear in both GF1 and PNC but not in GF2, like Kuro (MDR) or Florence (PA-15), but using their PNC skillset
They could also add some of the PNC originals with their unique weapons/skillsets adapted into the GF2 gameplay
Or they could add some of the dolls that appear in both GF1 and PNC but not in GF2, like Kuro (MDR) or Florence (PA-15), but using their PNC skillset
The developers haven't put a release date on the Steam page of the Darkwinter version of the game. It's possible that they've not gotten around to it but I think it's more likely that the game is not releasing on Steam on the 3rd and might come later. Might have to start on their own client at launch.
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Preload is up on both Darkwinter and Haoplay homepage. No steam preload yet.
Haoplay people can download the Darkwinter version through VPN or a direct link (probably safe but download at your own risk).
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Haoplay people can download the Darkwinter version through VPN or a direct link (probably safe but download at your own risk).
Quoted from the announcement on Haoplay's page (I am not being able to access Darkwinter page without VPN). Yeah, steam version should launch later I guess. Not good looking honestly.
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I think progress should carry over just fine from Direct DL Client to Steam, as long as you're not region hopping from DW to Hao. Progress is account based, they confirmed you can freely switch between devices this way. IE: (PC > Tablet > Phone.)
The real question is gonna be for those in Haoplay regions whether or not there will some form of currency block that prevents purchases based on region as well. In that case it will be quite sad for Haoplay frens...
The real question is gonna be for those in Haoplay regions whether or not there will some form of currency block that prevents purchases based on region as well. In that case it will be quite sad for Haoplay frens...
I downloaded the Darkwinter version with the direct link to the launcher: https://gf2-us-cdn-launcher.sunborngame.com/prod/download/launcher/1.0.0/GF2_Launcher_pc1_1_0_0_OverSeas_Mica_1732302259_6_1000005.exe
(Clicking on the website gave me a "not available in your region")
I hope payment stuff works fine, cause while I'm not a whale I don't mind chucking some money towards a F2P game if I enjoy it enough.
It looks like the Darkwinter version let's you play with a guest account before binding (hello rerolling my old friend), while Haoplay apparently does not provide this, so differences between the versions are already emerging
Why does this have to be so complicated
(Clicking on the website gave me a "not available in your region")
I hope payment stuff works fine, cause while I'm not a whale I don't mind chucking some money towards a F2P game if I enjoy it enough.
It looks like the Darkwinter version let's you play with a guest account before binding (hello rerolling my old friend), while Haoplay apparently does not provide this, so differences between the versions are already emerging
Why does this have to be so complicated
Yea I downloaded this one aswell, but obviously I'm not gonna play it, if I won't be able to spend any money, at least the cheap start pack is something I usually tend to buyI downloaded the Darkwinter version with the direct link to the launcher: https://gf2-us-cdn-launcher.sunborngame.com/prod/download/launcher/1.0.0/GF2_Launcher_pc1_1_0_0_OverSeas_Mica_1732302259_6_1000005.exe
(Clicking on the website gave me a "not available in your region")
I hope payment stuff works fine, cause while I'm not a whale I don't mind chucking some money towards a F2P game if I enjoy it enough.
It looks like the Darkwinter version let's you play with a guest account before binding (hello rerolling my old friend), while Haoplay apparently does not provide this, so differences between the versions are already emerging
Why does this have to be so complicated
Also, easier to update the mobile version on the one that's actually supported in europe
This haoplay business and the staggered Steam releases are causing chaos for lots of folks. Every tweet from the GFL2 account is flooded with replies about people not being able to download the game or not being able to figure out how to get it on their preferred platforms.It looks like the Darkwinter version let's you play with a guest account before binding (hello rerolling my old friend), while Haoplay apparently does not provide this, so differences between the versions are already emerging
Why does this have to be so complicated
I preloaded the game and when I launched it, it gave me the option to choose a language. The choices were Japanese, Chinese and Korean. I am ok playing the game with voice acting that I don't understand but at the same time I know there is a version of this game which likely has English voice acting. They've gone to the effort and expense of localizing the game in other languages but they can't offer all options to all users. Such a strange situation.
So anyway, what's the deal with rerolling in this game? Is it recommended and what characters should we be hoping to get? I typically don't like the idea of rerolling because even replaying the starting section is kind of boring. I wish these games understood that a portion of their audience wants to reroll and made it straightforward for them. I remember Atelier Resleriana did this. You could play the tutorial until you got your first gacha characters. If you didn't like your roll you could just delete the save data yourself. And then when you restart you could also skip the whole tutorial and go right back to the gacha. People care about how their first rolls go. When I was playing Wuthering Waves I liked a lot about the game but it was just too much to deal with while playing all the other Hoyo games. I still kept at it, playing slowly until I got enough tickets for a 5-star character. Did all 75ish pulls or whatever and then lost the 50-50 and got someone I already had. That sucked and I just deleted the game after that lol. Wouldn't have done it if I liked the game enough but I clearly didn't and this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
There is not. Both versions have the same localisation options.
I think the recommendation is to not do it cause it's an awful experience (0.6% Hoyo rates) and the game is seemingly generous enough that the starting rolls do not matter all that much if one sticks with the game for a longer time.
So maybe the version without a guest account tempting to do it is actually better
According to Reddit there is no regionlocking involved for payments, so that's goodI downloaded the Darkwinter version with the direct link to the launcher: https://gf2-us-cdn-launcher.sunborngame.com/prod/download/launcher/1.0.0/GF2_Launcher_pc1_1_0_0_OverSeas_Mica_1732302259_6_1000005.exe
(Clicking on the website gave me a "not available in your region")
I hope payment stuff works fine, cause while I'm not a whale I don't mind chucking some money towards a F2P game if I enjoy it enough.
It looks like the Darkwinter version let's you play with a guest account before binding (hello rerolling my old friend), while Haoplay apparently does not provide this, so differences between the versions are already emerging
Why does this have to be so complicated
Why is everyone hiding their number? I don't know how to hide it and I feel bad
I pulled Mosin Nagant (what a choice for the name) from my first 10 (actually 8) pull of the beginner banner. There's no way to get another 5-star from this banner now is there? In other words, no reason to continue pulling from this banner right? I should switch over to the regular banner?
Still playing with the starting 3 and I'm hesitant to upgrade anyone else because I'm not sure who is good.
The game seems nice so far. Has anyone spent money already? I'm guessing it'll be the usual thing where the $5 pass is the best value for money. Also expect that $20 outfit will sell like crazy.
I pulled Mosin Nagant (what a choice for the name) from my first 10 (actually 8) pull of the beginner banner. There's no way to get another 5-star from this banner now is there? In other words, no reason to continue pulling from this banner right? I should switch over to the regular banner?
Still playing with the starting 3 and I'm hesitant to upgrade anyone else because I'm not sure who is good.
The game seems nice so far. Has anyone spent money already? I'm guessing it'll be the usual thing where the $5 pass is the best value for money. Also expect that $20 outfit will sell like crazy.
Well, I did it because I saw others were doing it too (click on the crossed eye and pick "hide until replied")Why is everyone hiding their number? I don't know how to hide it and I feel bad
It costs less to roll on that banner compared to the normal one (8 tickets for a 10-pull versus 10). That banner disappears after 50 pulls, and it uses different tickets compared to the ones limited banners use, so feel free to use it still
Don't worry about that. I'm drowning in exp items (both dolls and weapons). But I'll tell you who isn't worth it among the starting units without even looking at tier lists: Krolik, because melee sucks really bad, overwatch spam (which she can't do because she is melee) is just as busted as in X-com and she also suffers from poor HP (I expected her to have double the HP compared to normal ranged units, instead she has less than Nemesis who is a sniper!)
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Finally reached Lv20 (around beginning of ch.4) so I am now able to start the event. Skipped all the main story because I read them during beta. Going to slow down my progress a bit to take in everything steadily. I may also spend some time in the refitting room to stare at the textures and change up the main menu.
Btw, once you finished 3-5, Hunter Assessment mode opens where you can learn the basics of the combat mechanics. Pretty dumb that it is not available right at the beginning of the game, but the tutorials are pretty well designed.
You will be swimming in combat report during the early hours. Just upgrade the ones you like imo.
Btw, once you finished 3-5, Hunter Assessment mode opens where you can learn the basics of the combat mechanics. Pretty dumb that it is not available right at the beginning of the game, but the tutorials are pretty well designed.
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Alrighty, first impressions:
I played until Chapter 3-5 or so. The last thing I did was setting up some Dispatchs.
Got Sabrina from the beginner banner, so my current team is Sabrina, Nemesis, Sharkry and Ksenia.
First off, the very first impression is a very negative one. I do not understand why games force you through a bunch of story and missions before giving you access to the menu. So I had to play with the German translation (which is very uneven, the VN sections seemed mostly fine, but combat dialog was mostly bad, with often literal "(linebreak here)" notes being left in) and lower graphic settings. Terrible UX.
Since then it's been enjoyable. I'm a bit surprised by how mobile game it feels. Maybe the higher production values made me I think it was a bit more like Hoyo games, but that is not the case. It's story chapters broken into battle stages that require stamina, with some side mission nodes and lots of menus for accessing the various parts of the Elmo (although that one does have a map and I think it's going to become something you can actually move around in in the future). All very mobile game-y.
The story so far has been okay. It still feels a bit like a big prologue, but there has been a decent mix of action, world building, mysteries and character drama. I'm kinda glad I read up on GFL1 though, cause it feels like they don't really ease you into all the concepts of the world or even the basic premise. But maybe that's something they do later or is in some side material I haven't seen yet.
Combat is okay. They have been slowly introducing new gimmicks for the maps, but for the most part I can auto everything, even if the AI is kinda stupid.
Still a lot of stuff left to unlock!
I played until Chapter 3-5 or so. The last thing I did was setting up some Dispatchs.
Got Sabrina from the beginner banner, so my current team is Sabrina, Nemesis, Sharkry and Ksenia.
First off, the very first impression is a very negative one. I do not understand why games force you through a bunch of story and missions before giving you access to the menu. So I had to play with the German translation (which is very uneven, the VN sections seemed mostly fine, but combat dialog was mostly bad, with often literal "(linebreak here)" notes being left in) and lower graphic settings. Terrible UX.
Since then it's been enjoyable. I'm a bit surprised by how mobile game it feels. Maybe the higher production values made me I think it was a bit more like Hoyo games, but that is not the case. It's story chapters broken into battle stages that require stamina, with some side mission nodes and lots of menus for accessing the various parts of the Elmo (although that one does have a map and I think it's going to become something you can actually move around in in the future). All very mobile game-y.
The story so far has been okay. It still feels a bit like a big prologue, but there has been a decent mix of action, world building, mysteries and character drama. I'm kinda glad I read up on GFL1 though, cause it feels like they don't really ease you into all the concepts of the world or even the basic premise. But maybe that's something they do later or is in some side material I haven't seen yet.
Combat is okay. They have been slowly introducing new gimmicks for the maps, but for the most part I can auto everything, even if the AI is kinda stupid.
Still a lot of stuff left to unlock!
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Agree. Chapter 1 to 3 was okay and 4 is really where the story starts to kick into gear. It feels like where the story truly begins to unfold (and I enjoy it a lot!). Nonetheless, I still like (chapter 2 spoiler)the tension between Groza and Colphne. It was a good reminder that how different the commander is from other humans on how they treat dolls in the world. To Colphne the commander and Groza are anomalies.
My biggest complaint of the game is that there is no glossary in-game to look up the terminologies. Already saw a few comments on social media complaining how the story does not 'make sense'. On one hand I like Mica just throw people right into the world, on the other hand they could have made the story more accessible to new players.
Yeah, for sure. Some of it you can get via context, but there's a lot of jargon and new concepts introduced at a pretty fast clip.
It's a difficult balance to get right. Hours of exposition are also boring, but I think they could have done a little more.
I played a ton yesterday knowing today I'd jump into Infinity Nikki mostly, so I played through Chapter 4 and the Event story.
Chapter 4 is certainly where things pick up narratively a bit, you get a clearer picture of the Antagonist faction, there are some nice reunions (if you know GFL1) and there are some very nice "hell yeah!" moments.
Gameplay-wise it's still easy but you can see that they are slowly ramping up boss movesets.
But the event is imo the best showcase of the game.
The story is really good and the boss was really challenging and had a very fun moveset. Granted, I was underleveled (23 for a 28 mission) so I eventually used a friends whale Suomi to level the playing field a bit, but that wasn't an insta-win button, I still had to engage with the mechanics.
Had to laugh when I saw the Nikke mini-game with the forced swimsuits though, it's quite some whiplash.
Chapter 4 is certainly where things pick up narratively a bit, you get a clearer picture of the Antagonist faction, there are some nice reunions (if you know GFL1) and there are some very nice "hell yeah!" moments.
Gameplay-wise it's still easy but you can see that they are slowly ramping up boss movesets.
But the event is imo the best showcase of the game.
The story is really good and the boss was really challenging and had a very fun moveset. Granted, I was underleveled (23 for a 28 mission) so I eventually used a friends whale Suomi to level the playing field a bit, but that wasn't an insta-win button, I still had to engage with the mechanics.
Had to laugh when I saw the Nikke mini-game with the forced swimsuits though, it's quite some whiplash.
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I saw that Part 2 of Glass Island will be opened after 4 days, so I am taking my time with Part 1. (Story Progress) Just finished reading the vote result so I am entering the final stretch. To be frank, I was not too interested in Ullrid as a character prior the event. My preconception from the character trailer is that she is a brave warrior who determines to lead her people out of plight, but throughout the event she showed insecurity, rash in decision-making, as well as her weirdly-realistic way to decompress. The portrayal of her now feels grounded and complete. In my mind she is no longer a leader sitting on a pedestal alone, but someone who walks among friends and stand the ground together. Such a fun and interesting leader. The one negative from such realisation is that, oh god I want to pull Ullrid! Give her to me Mica!
It is reasonable that why so many people in the GFL2 community love to call the dolls "dorks". The ounce of silliness is what makes them so adorable, and more importantly, relatable. Can't wait to continue reading the event.
It is reasonable that why so many people in the GFL2 community love to call the dolls "dorks". The ounce of silliness is what makes them so adorable, and more importantly, relatable. Can't wait to continue reading the event.
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I went through it all to unlock Hard Mode to spend the farming tickets for event currency (since you can only hold 6 max and get 3 per day).
Probably doesn't matter much in the long run though.
I really wish they would have copied the event shop system from Hoyo games too though. Just play through all the content once and clear out the shop without any time pressure. Feels especially dumb since you only need to do a stage one time anyway before you can auto-complete it in a second.
However the event stages at least not using Stamina is already a step in the right direction.
Probably doesn't matter much in the long run though.
I really wish they would have copied the event shop system from Hoyo games too though. Just play through all the content once and clear out the shop without any time pressure. Feels especially dumb since you only need to do a stage one time anyway before you can auto-complete it in a second.
However the event stages at least not using Stamina is already a step in the right direction.
I added everyone who shared their UID here and mine is
I got to level 21 or so and I'm in chapter 4. I'm enjoying it although you do have to accept a lot of 'this is the state of the world as it is' kind of world building. I'm guessing you guys are liking it a lot more because they've started introducing old characters and are connecting it to the first game.
I managed to pull Suomi. I was unreasonably apprehensive that I'd lose the 50-50 and then not be able to get her before her banner ended. Got lucky though. I know these games front load the amount of currency you can get when you're just starting out but I'm still surprised it took only 2 days to get her (64 tickets). This is in addition to 90+ standard banner tickets I've gotten. We'll see how generous they remain as time goes on.
I took advice from the thread and dropped Krolik from my team at level 10. My team after that was Mosin-Nagant, Groza, Nemesis and Ksenia. Obviously 2 snipers wasn't ideal but it's what I had. After getting Suomi I swapped out Nemesis. Now I have 2 support/healers, a tank and one sniper. Instinctively this also doesn't seem great with too much sustain but the supports do decent damage for now and the game is very easy. I worry that I'll have a dps problem later when things get hard.
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I managed to pull Suomi. I was unreasonably apprehensive that I'd lose the 50-50 and then not be able to get her before her banner ended. Got lucky though. I know these games front load the amount of currency you can get when you're just starting out but I'm still surprised it took only 2 days to get her (64 tickets). This is in addition to 90+ standard banner tickets I've gotten. We'll see how generous they remain as time goes on.
I took advice from the thread and dropped Krolik from my team at level 10. My team after that was Mosin-Nagant, Groza, Nemesis and Ksenia. Obviously 2 snipers wasn't ideal but it's what I had. After getting Suomi I swapped out Nemesis. Now I have 2 support/healers, a tank and one sniper. Instinctively this also doesn't seem great with too much sustain but the supports do decent damage for now and the game is very easy. I worry that I'll have a dps problem later when things get hard.
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I finished Glass Island Part 1. I have a few slight grievances on the cutscene (eg. lipsync and cuts) and weird change-of-topics during earlier story segments, the overall story was pretty good and the character development was stellar. The final boss was the best encounter in the game so far. My echelon was Lv24 consisting of Groza, Suomi, Qiongjiu and Lotta. Strong team imo but I still felt the pressure when fighting the boss.
I would recommend playing Glass Island after finishing chapter 4 because it showcases the state and function of doll well. It also gives you a nice free unit (Lotta) and the difficulty isn't too taxing as well. Really great opener especially to new players imo.
PSA: For those who have finished Glass Island, the bottom row of Dusty Memories seem to be extra stories setting before and after Glass Island. I will be giving them a read during the weekend.
I felt emotional when going through chapter 4 lol.
I would recommend playing Glass Island after finishing chapter 4 because it showcases the state and function of doll well. It also gives you a nice free unit (Lotta) and the difficulty isn't too taxing as well. Really great opener especially to new players imo.
PSA: For those who have finished Glass Island, the bottom row of Dusty Memories seem to be extra stories setting before and after Glass Island. I will be giving them a read during the weekend.
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Alright hit my goal of level 30 before weekly reset to unlock all the modes. Gonna focus on the event story this weekend.
Been running Suomi and Qiongjiu and it's so much free damage. Every attack starts with Suomi assisting with Qiongjiu following up. Groza gets a mention if you can perfect defense to consistently proc 2-3 counter attacks. Will probably look at going +1 on Suomi because that is a substantial upgrade.
Also a random question but do any of you have gacha rituals or superstitions when you're going for pulls?
Been running Suomi and Qiongjiu and it's so much free damage. Every attack starts with Suomi assisting with Qiongjiu following up. Groza gets a mention if you can perfect defense to consistently proc 2-3 counter attacks. Will probably look at going +1 on Suomi because that is a substantial upgrade.
Also a random question but do any of you have gacha rituals or superstitions when you're going for pulls?
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Finished reading 'Special Cinema' story from Dusty Memories. Love wholesome story in GFL. Man I love these dum-dums.
Man I love these dum-dums.Not really, no. However, I do know someone who asks others to press the pull button for them. "To borrow others' luck", they suggested. Not sure if that was effective because no rare characters were getting pulled during my turn lol.
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I immediately upgraded Littara to my current max level after reading her story in Dusty Memories, and I am going to use her on Part 2 of Glass Island. The writing there was simply excellent.
Also... some of the memes are top tier. I enjoy reading shitposting a lot, too. Spoiler tag to avoid clutter.
Also... some of the memes are top tier. I enjoy reading shitposting a lot, too. Spoiler tag to avoid clutter.
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My gacha luck in this has been abysmal. Got 2 Standard soft-pitites, the first one was Vepley's weapon and the second one was Vepley - who you already get for free and is supposedly power-crept by the free event Lotta... Oof .
My immediate gut reaction was "fuck this, I'm out", but I'm trying to preserve a little more, at least until I've played through the event and I want to see who the next banner is (I already have a guarantee saved up, I just need a banner with a character I want).
Mainly because I've seen that when the writing gets good, it gets really good. I mentioned it before, but the Part 1 event story was fantastic. The main story is unfortunately not as good yet - it feels a bit "dry", if that makes sense, with the progression feeling a bit perfunctory and some of the character dynamics are pretty repetitive (Krolik Nemesis comes to mind).
I also still wanna read through all of the side documents and stuff at my own pace.
.My immediate gut reaction was "fuck this, I'm out", but I'm trying to preserve a little more, at least until I've played through the event and I want to see who the next banner is (I already have a guarantee saved up, I just need a banner with a character I want).
Mainly because I've seen that when the writing gets good, it gets really good. I mentioned it before, but the Part 1 event story was fantastic. The main story is unfortunately not as good yet - it feels a bit "dry", if that makes sense, with the progression feeling a bit perfunctory and some of the character dynamics are pretty repetitive (Krolik Nemesis comes to mind).
I also still wanna read through all of the side documents and stuff at my own pace.
I'll preface that I don't consider myself f2p (I don't have problems with getting the battle pass, monthly pass, a costume I really want, something I consider a very good offer if the overall price is not that different from a normal game price, but I'll never go beyond dolphin and most of all I never, under no circumstances, spend money or paid currency directly on crystal/rolls)
First week of GF2 done. All 6 campaign chapters 100% done, will do hard stages as they unlock and when I fully finish the event. Event part 1 100% on both normal and hard, will finish part 2 over the next day
Unfortunately after reading all the posts here and on other sites I can't deny that my (no rerolled) account is extremely blessed, way too much I probably wasted my entire year 1 luck on the first week alone
Beginner banner result:
30 rolls on the Suomi banner result:
"All right, I shouldn't push my luck further, but... even if I lose the 50/50 it's more likely I get something new or a QJ dupe than Vepley" result:
Oh, I forgot to say my first standard banner SSR was QJ's gold weapon too, so I didn't have to waste my redundant pieces on her weapon either
Luckily the one doll I want the most can be obtained for free by playing the boss battle mode so I'm not worried, but oh well I just finished chapter 6 yesterday and there is no reason to hoard standard tickets anyway, and here's the result:
There is a saying in italy that translated goes like this: "you got to 30, you might as well go to 31 too", so I'll just cut it short: I also have Perkele's and Sword Mommy's weapons (and Mezzaluna with the redundant pieces)
On principles I refuse to roll for dupes no matter how important they are, so this is it for the launch month, every ticket and crystal will be hoarded from now on until january
So yeah, I hope the next banner is not Cutekay because I'll definitely fail the 50/50 and hit pity both times with how things went so far
Since posting about good luck is the first way to lose good luck forever, I'll also give a few pointers about the dolls I rolled (or their roles more in general)
It's evident why Qiongjiu is so high tier. In a previous post I wrote about how "overwatch is king just like Xcom", but I used the wrong term since overwatch refers to attacking an enemy during the enemy turn. The correct definition is "Support Attacks are king", and the jade dragon is the true queen of support attacks. Slap her near an enemy team and watch as she helps dealing the killing blow after each other units attack, her entire kit is build for this (outside of her knife throw which is still a very useful tool to get a far away enemy beyond cover). She, on average, halves the turns it takes to kill a boss, and since each attack also help in breaking their defense, you can argue it actually reduces turn counts to 1/3, if not less. Honestly people that rerolled for Suomi should have rerolled the beginner banner for her instead, support attacks are that broken in this game
Suomi makes an entire category of dolls redundant. Why use healers if you never take HP damage? But you have to admit Suomi is probably one of the dolls that needs investment to be properly used. First, being able to use her ultimate (the one that generates the shield) on turn one is a game changer, so unlocking her "gain 3 points of ultimate bar turn one" key at level 20 is a must. Second, both her first dupe or her gold weapon are a great aid to her kit. I don't roll dupes but I know her first dupe upgrades her ultimate to also heal, which is of great help if a unit shield gets broken by a strong boss. But her weapon also has a similar effect in making the shield much stronger (let's say, from a value of 1/2 doll Max HP on average they ger boosted to 3/4), which again helps a lot in never losing a single HP point. Suomi is also a support attacker and she can do some good damage with a good weapon equipped. I will say support attacks are not a very clear concept, most of them depend on specific conditions (enemy has a debuff, doll has a buff, target is standing on certain tiles, target walks near a unit, counterattacks etc). Always read you unit skill descriptions to see how much they can actually do, in some cases you can be positively surprised
There is no need to go into details on why Krolik sucks, and the fact there is only a second melee unit even after a year in the CN version is clear proof of this. But Ulrid feels like how Krolik would be if the game implemented a MOD3 feature. Ulrid's kit is basically a patched Krolik kit. Krolik can't attack diagonally (only the 4 tiles around her)? Ulrid melee skills can. Krolik is forced to always go out of cover to approach the enemy? Ulrid has a middle range bow attack. Krolik risks getting herself exposed to attack an enemy? Ulrid can move again after using one of her melee skills so she can go back behind cover. Krolik needs to kill 3 enemies to gain one extra move? Ulrid uses her ultimate bar to attack up to 3 times in a single turn. Ulrid is still not fully reliable but she is a marked improvement on the previous blade doll. She also has a counter but compared to the other dolls its less obvious how to trigger it
Before talking about Sabrina, I'll first say an important thing to consider: in this game dolls that use the same weapon type can have completely different roles. Vepley uses a shotgun, but she and her kit are obviously dps (and displacement) focused and this can also be seen on her stats. Same for Lotta. But Sabrina is a full blown tank (though she can still AoE attack or destroy cover like other SGs), she works how SGs worked in GF1 (and since we're talking about this, the same is true for ARs, Groza is a tank but the others are dps). Her kit, especially her ultimate, can help your dolls survive. The main problem with Sabrina is that her kit is not an immediate win button (or in a tank case a "no damage button"). You need to use her other skills to help her get her skill rotation in order and to counterattack. But if you do get to that point, she can parry and counter a boss 3/4 times in an enemy turn, and each one of those counters can also trigger Qiongjiu's support attacks, further helping in boss killing
First week of GF2 done. All 6 campaign chapters 100% done, will do hard stages as they unlock and when I fully finish the event. Event part 1 100% on both normal and hard, will finish part 2 over the next day
Unfortunately after reading all the posts here and on other sites I can't deny that my (no rerolled) account is extremely blessed, way too much I probably wasted my entire year 1 luck on the first week alone
Beginner banner result:
30 rolls on the Suomi banner result:
"All right, I shouldn't push my luck further, but... even if I lose the 50/50 it's more likely I get something new or a QJ dupe than Vepley" result:
Oh, I forgot to say my first standard banner SSR was QJ's gold weapon too, so I didn't have to waste my redundant pieces on her weapon either
Luckily the one doll I want the most can be obtained for free by playing the boss battle mode so I'm not worried, but oh well I just finished chapter 6 yesterday and there is no reason to hoard standard tickets anyway, and here's the result:
There is a saying in italy that translated goes like this: "you got to 30, you might as well go to 31 too", so I'll just cut it short: I also have Perkele's and Sword Mommy's weapons (and Mezzaluna with the redundant pieces)
On principles I refuse to roll for dupes no matter how important they are, so this is it for the launch month, every ticket and crystal will be hoarded from now on until january
So yeah, I hope the next banner is not Cutekay because I'll definitely fail the 50/50 and hit pity both times with how things went so far
Since posting about good luck is the first way to lose good luck forever, I'll also give a few pointers about the dolls I rolled (or their roles more in general)
It's evident why Qiongjiu is so high tier. In a previous post I wrote about how "overwatch is king just like Xcom", but I used the wrong term since overwatch refers to attacking an enemy during the enemy turn. The correct definition is "Support Attacks are king", and the jade dragon is the true queen of support attacks. Slap her near an enemy team and watch as she helps dealing the killing blow after each other units attack, her entire kit is build for this (outside of her knife throw which is still a very useful tool to get a far away enemy beyond cover). She, on average, halves the turns it takes to kill a boss, and since each attack also help in breaking their defense, you can argue it actually reduces turn counts to 1/3, if not less. Honestly people that rerolled for Suomi should have rerolled the beginner banner for her instead, support attacks are that broken in this game
Suomi makes an entire category of dolls redundant. Why use healers if you never take HP damage? But you have to admit Suomi is probably one of the dolls that needs investment to be properly used. First, being able to use her ultimate (the one that generates the shield) on turn one is a game changer, so unlocking her "gain 3 points of ultimate bar turn one" key at level 20 is a must. Second, both her first dupe or her gold weapon are a great aid to her kit. I don't roll dupes but I know her first dupe upgrades her ultimate to also heal, which is of great help if a unit shield gets broken by a strong boss. But her weapon also has a similar effect in making the shield much stronger (let's say, from a value of 1/2 doll Max HP on average they ger boosted to 3/4), which again helps a lot in never losing a single HP point. Suomi is also a support attacker and she can do some good damage with a good weapon equipped. I will say support attacks are not a very clear concept, most of them depend on specific conditions (enemy has a debuff, doll has a buff, target is standing on certain tiles, target walks near a unit, counterattacks etc). Always read you unit skill descriptions to see how much they can actually do, in some cases you can be positively surprised
There is no need to go into details on why Krolik sucks, and the fact there is only a second melee unit even after a year in the CN version is clear proof of this. But Ulrid feels like how Krolik would be if the game implemented a MOD3 feature. Ulrid's kit is basically a patched Krolik kit. Krolik can't attack diagonally (only the 4 tiles around her)? Ulrid melee skills can. Krolik is forced to always go out of cover to approach the enemy? Ulrid has a middle range bow attack. Krolik risks getting herself exposed to attack an enemy? Ulrid can move again after using one of her melee skills so she can go back behind cover. Krolik needs to kill 3 enemies to gain one extra move? Ulrid uses her ultimate bar to attack up to 3 times in a single turn. Ulrid is still not fully reliable but she is a marked improvement on the previous blade doll. She also has a counter but compared to the other dolls its less obvious how to trigger it
Before talking about Sabrina, I'll first say an important thing to consider: in this game dolls that use the same weapon type can have completely different roles. Vepley uses a shotgun, but she and her kit are obviously dps (and displacement) focused and this can also be seen on her stats. Same for Lotta. But Sabrina is a full blown tank (though she can still AoE attack or destroy cover like other SGs), she works how SGs worked in GF1 (and since we're talking about this, the same is true for ARs, Groza is a tank but the others are dps). Her kit, especially her ultimate, can help your dolls survive. The main problem with Sabrina is that her kit is not an immediate win button (or in a tank case a "no damage button"). You need to use her other skills to help her get her skill rotation in order and to counterattack. But if you do get to that point, she can parry and counter a boss 3/4 times in an enemy turn, and each one of those counters can also trigger Qiongjiu's support attacks, further helping in boss killing
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I am slowly progressing the main story and yeah, chapter 5 was pretty weak imo. Banter between Krolik and Nemesis starts to get old.
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That luck was impressive. I got Qiongjiu from the beginners' banner. She appeared at the end of my 50 pulls. Then, I got Suomi from hard pity but lost Ullrid 50/50 to Peritya. Also got Peritya's gun from pity of standard banner. That's it. Losing Ullrid made me a bit sad but I can wait for re-run, because apparently re-run is pretty frequent in CN. Klukai will not arrive until later because (story progression spoiler)her event is chapter 9 and 10 of the main story. I think next one will be Wawa or Dushevnaya. Personally I want both but let's see how this goes.
I am more of a story enjoyer than meta player but I can see Suomi and Qiongjiu are pretty broken in this game. With them I went through most of the stages smoothly even under level. Although Suomi makes healer obsolete I will definitely go after Centauressi because, well, who doesn't love combat maid?
Did not expect Part 2 of Glass Island to have such low level requirement so I will test some dolls like Liitara and Peritya to shake up the combat. Cheeta's 'Ei! Ei!" sound during healing was fun to listen to so maybe I will drop her in. Also heard Ksenia is not a bad unit at all so going to try her out as well.
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I've not been able to play much in the last few days, partly because of the glut of new games but mainly because I was extremely sick over the weekend and the lingering after effects. I noticed everyone in my friends list is level 30 or above and I'm still at 26.
I did finish chapter 4 and I had a couple of thoughts. The game has only shipped with 6 chapters as shown in the UI right? So far it has been okay to pick up the story from where it starts and as it is going along but now getting to the end of the available content it feels like it's not very substantial. It's hard to express exactly what I mean... if you think a story should have a start, a middle and an end, this one picks up in the middle (which is sort of fine) but I cannot see it having a fleshed out end or even a satisfactory stopping point. I know a live service game can't have a complete story but I do think it should be a meaty and fulfilling plot in it's 1.0 release. If anything, this feels like it should come in a later patch with a lot of context already available. My only point of comparison is mihoyo who ships incomplete planets or regions with their x.0 patches and then finish them out with the x.3 or x.4 patch. This release feels like an x.3 patch where you know stuff from before and you know the ending is still coming. Feels a bit odd for a 1.0 release is all.
I think the other thing that is in my head is that this game really isn't one of those things where you 'can play the second without having played the first one'. I mean you obviously can, and you can pick mostly everything that is going on, but i do feel like the context of the GFL universe matters a lot and would dramatically increase your enjoyment of the game. I remember reading the cutscene selector thing when Cacher first created this thread but it really was too long to complete at the time. In essence, it is basically reading the entire visual novel part of the first game. I found this Google doc which says it's a 'brief' summary of the first game but it's 86 pages long. Then I found a lore page on the wiki which gives a very rough idea of all the events in the universe before and after the games. That was just one page but even that provided so much context to what is actually going on. That made me think I really need to try and go through that 86 page doc to see what is what with this universe.
Anyway I pulled Tololo from the standard banner. I need to slot her into my team which is currently still Mosin-Nagant, Groza, Nemesis and Ksenia. It has to be Ksenia who goes right? One problem is I don't have a good weapon for Tololo and I don't want to waste resources leveling up a blue gun to 25 or more until I can get one.
I haven't had a chance to start the event but I had a look and the UI just confused me. Are there 2 different story tracks in it? Is one of them just a series of combat challenges? Can someone walk me through what order I should do it in and also, is the story connected to the main plot we have right now? Should I finish chapter 6 before working on the event?
I did finish chapter 4 and I had a couple of thoughts. The game has only shipped with 6 chapters as shown in the UI right? So far it has been okay to pick up the story from where it starts and as it is going along but now getting to the end of the available content it feels like it's not very substantial. It's hard to express exactly what I mean... if you think a story should have a start, a middle and an end, this one picks up in the middle (which is sort of fine) but I cannot see it having a fleshed out end or even a satisfactory stopping point. I know a live service game can't have a complete story but I do think it should be a meaty and fulfilling plot in it's 1.0 release. If anything, this feels like it should come in a later patch with a lot of context already available. My only point of comparison is mihoyo who ships incomplete planets or regions with their x.0 patches and then finish them out with the x.3 or x.4 patch. This release feels like an x.3 patch where you know stuff from before and you know the ending is still coming. Feels a bit odd for a 1.0 release is all.
I think the other thing that is in my head is that this game really isn't one of those things where you 'can play the second without having played the first one'. I mean you obviously can, and you can pick mostly everything that is going on, but i do feel like the context of the GFL universe matters a lot and would dramatically increase your enjoyment of the game. I remember reading the cutscene selector thing when Cacher first created this thread but it really was too long to complete at the time. In essence, it is basically reading the entire visual novel part of the first game. I found this Google doc which says it's a 'brief' summary of the first game but it's 86 pages long. Then I found a lore page on the wiki which gives a very rough idea of all the events in the universe before and after the games. That was just one page but even that provided so much context to what is actually going on. That made me think I really need to try and go through that 86 page doc to see what is what with this universe.
Anyway I pulled Tololo from the standard banner. I need to slot her into my team which is currently still Mosin-Nagant, Groza, Nemesis and Ksenia. It has to be Ksenia who goes right? One problem is I don't have a good weapon for Tololo and I don't want to waste resources leveling up a blue gun to 25 or more until I can get one.
I haven't had a chance to start the event but I had a look and the UI just confused me. Are there 2 different story tracks in it? Is one of them just a series of combat challenges? Can someone walk me through what order I should do it in and also, is the story connected to the main plot we have right now? Should I finish chapter 6 before working on the event?
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Ksenia is a healer and Tololo is a DPS. Personally I would replace Nemesis with Tololo because a healer is important in some later stages.
Regarding the event, story event at the bottom right corner. The story was divided into Part 1 and 2. Timeline-wise, the events in both of them happen before the main story so you can start whenever you want. I recommend playing it asap because they touch on some ideas of how a doll function, and more importantly, it gives you a free doll.
The challenge stages are for the high level players. There's also the hazard patrol mode as well as the shooting gallery/Nikke mode which you can get extra rewards.
A quick guide for the event
Bottom right: the actual story like the main campaign. Play part 1 first but difficulty is the same (they don't require stamina). It doesn't matter when you play them since the story isn't directly related to the main campaign
Middle right: storyless challenge levels. Only do them when you feel confident enough
Middle left: both are levels with different rules, both storyless. The one above has you picking a team of 4 dolls and exploring a chess-like "dungeon" were you need to find the key to the next floor, and kill a specific boss on the top floor. The one below is a very quick Nikke-inspired minigame, and also one that doesn't use your dolls at all (so it's completely separate from your progress)
I'm daft and made a mistake. My team is actually Mosin-Nagant, Groza, Suomi and Ksenia. Suomi, not Nemesis. In that case it has to be Ksenia who gets swapped out right?
Also thanks for the detailed info on the event folks. Appreciate it.
Also thanks for the detailed info on the event folks. Appreciate it.
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In that case, Groza is well-rounded (stability damage, AOE attack, defense buff) meanwhile Ksenia can heal and more importantly buff your team's attack. You can choose between them according to your style but yeah, I would replace Ksenia with Tololo if you ask me.
Edit: I mixed up Cheeta's ultimate team buff and Ksenia's heal+buff lol. Ksenia one is single target only.
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I finished the event part 2 story, and this isn't really a spoiler for the story but I'll spoiler regardless
What's with the random voiceless lines?
I suppose they've been a victim of rewrites, like fine I know the CN 1st year had its share of issues, but in this case the scenes were 90% voiced and then suddenly one or 2 lines were unvoiced. And it's not like the voiceless lines don't fit with the voiced ones either, unless originally there was some difference in the way the commander met the doll community, or in the "contract"
I suppose they've been a victim of rewrites, like fine I know the CN 1st year had its share of issues, but in this case the scenes were 90% voiced and then suddenly one or 2 lines were unvoiced. And it's not like the voiceless lines don't fit with the voiced ones either, unless originally there was some difference in the way the commander met the doll community, or in the "contract"
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I also finished reading through it.
Yeah I agree, it's probably due to the rewrite. The lack of VA mainly occured during the conversation between Suomi and commander in the last story node so Mica may have changed how both interpreted or conveyed the contract thing.
Composition of the event also feels weird to me because I was expecting a continuation of the power plant story, so it seems that they stitched the doll community storyline and the Suomi storyline together in a haste.
I definitely want to see the continuation of the doll community story though because it has tons of potential. I even imagine that they can make a game mechanic like making the power plant a stronghold for the commander. However, I checked the location of the powerplant and it seems to locate in Czech, so direct involvment from Commander in the foreseeable future seems to be slim because the main story centres in Ukraine for now.
Composition of the event also feels weird to me because I was expecting a continuation of the power plant story, so it seems that they stitched the doll community storyline and the Suomi storyline together in a haste.
I definitely want to see the continuation of the doll community story though because it has tons of potential. I even imagine that they can make a game mechanic like making the power plant a stronghold for the commander. However, I checked the location of the powerplant and it seems to locate in Czech, so direct involvment from Commander in the foreseeable future seems to be slim because the main story centres in Ukraine for now.
Decided to do a couple of 10-pulls on Suomi's banner again to see if I can get lucky and I did! First 10-pull itself gave me this
Did anyone buy Groza's evening dress outfit? It looks really nice to me but I feel buying a skin for a 4-star character might be a bit pointless because she's likely getting replaced the moment I pull Sabrina or some other tank character that comes along right?
Everyone says Suomi's first constellation(?) is really great but I feel like I don't understand why just by reading the description.
Did anyone buy Groza's evening dress outfit? It looks really nice to me but I feel buying a skin for a 4-star character might be a bit pointless because she's likely getting replaced the moment I pull Sabrina or some other tank character that comes along right?
Doll Collection complete, 18/18.
Thank goodness they fixed the Ullrid bug. That woman is a straight Assassin.
