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I'm close to your age, and when I wasn't doing GAF, I was on Antagonist. Inc on AOL and, Secrets of the Sega Sages, and GameFaqs when it wasn't a punchline, and I 100% concur.
I'm looking at EGS right now like the industry was looking at PUBG a couple of years ago.
Fortnite will run its course eventually just like WOW did...the target audience will age-up, and EGS will have to find a new cash cow.
I'm baffled how Epic could make one of the tightest shooting games ever (UT2004, Gears) and shit out one of the most mediocre ones (Fortnite).
I was actually such a sucker for forums, I even got granted access to Matt Casamassina's hidden Gamecube Underground forum on the IGN boards. He actually did leak information on that board until a fellow Gaffer started leaking back to NeoGAF. I knew who was doing it too, lol.
Pfft all you younguns here. Who remembers trying to sort out sound blaster conflicts on DOS cause some fuckin game wouldn't work until you did some tweaking 
That and things like logging onto bulletin boards to download some 30MB South Park realmedia file that took for fuckin ever to download and then looked like shit to boot!
That and things like logging onto bulletin boards to download some 30MB South Park realmedia file that took for fuckin ever to download and then looked like shit to boot!
I have nothing to add but fuck Realmedia.Pfft all you younguns here. Who remembers trying to sort out sound blaster conflicts on DOS cause some fuckin game wouldn't work until you did some tweaking
IO 220Pfft all you younguns here. Who remembers trying to sort out sound blaster conflicts on DOS cause some fuckin game wouldn't work until you did some tweaking
IRQ 5
DMA 1
These numbers are etched on my brain.
Ah the good old days of needing a boot disk to run Ultima 7.
It's just a launcher though, am I right? Repeat ad aeternum.
People have been gaming on PC for a long time, they've seen PC get ignored by a lot of developers over the years, "lately" PC gaming is getting stronger than ever and it's as you say, it bothers people that are irrational. All of a sudden you also can't criticize any developer taking these deals because a bunch of morons can't behave like human beings.
This is coming from someone that has no problem with a dev cashing in those Epic dollars, but just say it as it is: "We want the money". Obviously I'd prefer they didn't, because I'm not buying a single game on that store, but I understand.
Epic won't be able to keep this very aggressive push forever and I'm not sure when these deals stop that they'll be at the place that they want, meaning, the top store, or close to it, where people go to for deals and to build their library.
We'll see.
I see we still are the ElderCouncil over here.
Yes, SoundBlaster conflicts were a pain. Between it and a MIDI card (for the MT-32), and some other cards (LPT maybe and a modem later on) I remember almost running out of IRQs, specially because it was hard to know what your motherboard was using for itself.
All of worth it for experiencing things like the intro for Wing Commander 2
So yeah, we been through some annoying times before, and the biggest threat to PC gaming that was UWP had faded for now, so let's see what's after these... "turbulent" (to say the least) times.
Yes, SoundBlaster conflicts were a pain. Between it and a MIDI card (for the MT-32), and some other cards (LPT maybe and a modem later on) I remember almost running out of IRQs, specially because it was hard to know what your motherboard was using for itself.
All of worth it for experiencing things like the intro for Wing Commander 2
So yeah, we been through some annoying times before, and the biggest threat to PC gaming that was UWP had faded for now, so let's see what's after these... "turbulent" (to say the least) times.
Besides you are never a true PC gamer if you don't remember the struggles of trying to get the mouse driver into Himem.
The thing about the whole EGS thing is I am not against a new store. If I could think of a single solitary good thing that can possibly come out of what Epic is doing I would be cheer leading them all the way. But there isn't, there is no good outcome to this. The path Epic are taking leads to a bad outcome for consumers, developers and the PC platform.
Now I got to tell ya sometimes I feel like I am the only sane person in the bloody asylum how can people far more intelligent than me not see how this is going to be nothing but bad news in the long term.
Bunch of old nerds please
Nerds these days don't even know what a autoexec.bat/config.sys are. We watch LGR videos not to see what's was interesting in old hardware/software but to say "Holy crap I remember/had that!"
Sorry, my back is acting up so I'm going to have lie down in your lawn for a while.
It is frustrating. Joking aside, is hard to see how anyone with even a lit a bit of experience in PC gaming, that has taken advantage of it's openness, can't see how these things are not good long term. So either they are being stupid on purpose or simply aren't that involved with the platform...or maybe both
Though to be fair, feeling like you are the only sane person left is something I'm getting a lot these days including things outside of gaming. And yes, everyone else is crazy and I'm not out of touch or anything
Hey, I had to use their player to watch Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball when I was a kid. Shitty quality, but with shitty internet connection, my options were limited.
Bunch of old nerds please
Nerds these days don't even know what a autoexec.bat/config.sys are.
That struggle to get Doom to run with 4MB of RAM. When you had to boot into DOS before Windows 3.1 loaded.
I joined PC Gaming back in the Just Another Launcher Wild West days.
Heat.net, MS Zone, ASE, Gamespy/MPlayer, TEN. Downloading 35 pieces to a patch from sketchy locations. You know the good ol' days.
Heat.net, MS Zone, ASE, Gamespy/MPlayer, TEN. Downloading 35 pieces to a patch from sketchy locations. You know the good ol' days.
well we're certainly heading back that way
Fuck me, now that's something I don't miss.
yeah, you can say that again ...
or having to download and install patches sequentially (1.01 first, then 1.02, then 1.05, before you can install 1.1)
This is now the PC nostalgia thread.
But of course, DOS4GW will refuse to play nice with everything.
Which is why we setup our CONFIG.SYS to have separate menus and AUTOEXEC.BAT with %GOTO%
But of course, DOS4GW will refuse to play nice with everything.
Who had their old word doc or text file with cd keys lying around?
Smudged CD key stickers remembers.
Smudged CD key stickers remembers.
I'm not gonna lie, I was a filthy pirate when I joined the PC platform. In my defense, there were not many games for sale in my country, and those that were, they costed a lot of cash.
When I started playing games on the PC, the majority of them were pirated. The only ones that weren't were Half-Life, Team Fortress Classic, and Counter-Strike. I got those because a friend gave me one of the CD keys from a Half-Life collection.
I didn't stop pirating until the end of 2007 when I started buying games off of Steam.
I didn't stop pirating until the end of 2007 when I started buying games off of Steam.
Oooohh... that was so annoying. Find the site, find a good download manager because you are downloading from a modem and shit (someone is going to pick up the phone) is going to happen, hope nothing got corrupted. Try to install it, see you are missing a previous patch... start all over again.
There is a reason that as soon as Steam became more stable (the memories of the Half-life 2 launch....ouch) people jumped really fast to it... and why I find the arguments "you can use another app to do this and that" frustrating... yes, we know that, we lived through that. It is really nice to have a "baseline" of functionality for something in Steam and only choosing to use something else if it offers a better experience.
Before MS-DOS added that functionality I had to made a pretty "elaborate" menu system using... I think it was called Norton Batch Enhancer. With mini-windows (in ASCII of course) and the ability to store and select 16 unique configurations
HIMEM.SYS, EMM386, DOS4GW, QEMM (sometime it helped, others times.. not so much), and so many others abreviations.
..... I'm old ...
What? No no no no. I was completely legit in my day. I really was..... why is no one believing me? That Space Quest 2 that we found out was missing the third disk only when we finally progressed through the game is completely original, I swear.
Over here we also didn't have a lot of options. But I did like Sierra games so much I started to annoy my father so we could buy directly from them via FAX, and then waited a lot for it to arrive via mail.
Back in the old days here in Brazil was weird to have a original game, was hard to find and extremely expensive.
pretty much the same thing here ... up until like 2000 (or shortly after that)
Fuck Realmedia. The real fight of our generation.
And speaking of those IRQs... I'm still having driver conflict on my laptop that really remind me of that as I have to activate two conflicting devices in the right order at every boot.
Ouch.well we're certainly heading back that way
It's pretty funny seeing you guys reminisce about those bulletin boards and forums. As a non-native speaker, I got on english-speaking discussion boards too late to see any of that history. I would've loved to see it.
Metacouncil on Aging.
Anyway, let's get the Epic thread back on track: Death Stranding is an Epic exclusive. Book it, ya jabronis.
Anyway, let's get the Epic thread back on track: Death Stranding is an Epic exclusive. Book it, ya jabronis.
And if you're being serious, I have two words for you. Fuck. You. As someone who has been harassed online in the past, it's not something I'd want others to have to live with.
Lol, I did a stupid thing and read that thread that existed elsewhere. Trololololol everywhere lol.
If so, Epic has some serious Playstation envy! Sorry Tim, I'd only play it there.
Yup. Not that I was all that interested in playing it. Never been a big Kojima fan myself. Might've streamed it for shits & giggles, though, but I guess that ain't happening if it's Epic. Epic still hasn't gotten a single game that has made me consider breaking. The ONLY series that would get me to even think about it would be Resident Evil, and we know how Capcom loves whoring those games out on every single platform possible, so I doubt they'd ever go for an exclusive for a major game in the series.
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Another awful post. I'm quoting it because you shouldn't get to hide your self-admitted sociopathy to lurkers.
Comparing these guys to the Klan. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? The blog post was very, very mildly provocative at the worst. The only sane reaction to have at reading it, is to shrug and move on with your life, period. And not only you're justifying the harassment they get and even callously admit that you don't give a shit, you have the fucking nerve to compare this to the KKK. You actually compared this silly blog post to... the worst kind of dangerous bigot antagonizing a marginalized community. This is absolutely fucking batshits insane and a perfect example of the crazy toxicity in gaming communities.
I am not a full member so I can't report you or whatever, but seeing posts like these being accepted by the community sure as shit will insure I'll likely never become one.
It wasn't. It was out of touch under the best interpretation of their intentions. Please don't gaslight people. The harassment is unforgivable but the critcism they received was well-deserved.
You are extremely angry, hyperbolic and calling to ban someone while misreading his arguments with a tone that a worries me. Considering that you are alarmed by crazy toxicity in gaming communities, I'm afraid you aren't exactly helping here.
Furthermore, using his reply to paint the entire metacouncil community a given way is, for a lack of better words, bullshit. Please don't resort to such hasty generalizations and ad hominems aimed at people you haven't even met and talked with.
Edit : Also, consider this. If he gets banned, what is going to happen? He's not going to die of cardiac arrest. He'll still be here, except more pissed and less inclined to listen. Even if you assume that he's such a bad person, I would rather he stayed here with us where we have a chance to change his mind rather than be radicalized further. Pushing people away and railing at them with religious fervor does nothing to solve the problem. We had a discussion about that earlier in another thread iirc.
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I would rather buy another PS4
Should I compare them to idiots who walk into tiger dens? Or the ones that somersault into dangerous rivers?
Don't mistake my view of the situation as justification, it is simply a fact of life that exposing oneself to danger will increase the odds of shitty things happening, like walking alone at night or leaving your personal belongings somewhere. Antagonizing a community that is known to be toxic and send threats is stupidity to the highest degree, especially on the internet where your garden-variety sociopaths can jump on the bandwagon for shits and giggles.
My point has nothing to do with virtue. It has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with common sense. That's why the Klan comparison was used, because such a thing is completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
As for my sociopathy, you'll have to forgive me, because if I genuinely started caring about humans I have no relation to I'd have no choice but to kill myself; with the millions of starving people emaciated as their stomachs shrink and fold in on themselves, the thousands of people who commit suicide every day because they see no other way out, the hundreds in China who are treated as disposable as they are crushed by mechanical contraptions and accidents (and that's just the Han natives, the Uyghurs have it even worse off, with men being sent to camps as their women are forced to marry Han men), and all the Buddhist monks who set themselves on fire to fight for their beliefs in a better world.
Smart-ass first-world game devs would be on the bottom of my list anyhow.
Like I'm following your grievance here and I'm with it. Besides that, this message is a bit intense. You don't need to insult the whole forum over one post.
Yeah I have no idea what many of you are talking aboutNow I don't feel that old
Expressing an idiotic opinion about video games (or anything for that matter) should never attract harassment reactions and death threats.
It should be considered unacceptable to even approve those reactions too.
Generalisations do not help either. You can not paint a community bad because of a couple of bad posts. Except Nazis. Nazis are always bad, all of them.
Finally, as an old timer myself I had tried to play ET the game at its time on my cousin's Atari and my first mouse had a serial plug. And I disliked the notion of mice back then because I thought they ll make computing more easy. Idiot younger me lol.
It should be considered unacceptable to even approve those reactions too.
Generalisations do not help either. You can not paint a community bad because of a couple of bad posts. Except Nazis. Nazis are always bad, all of them.
Finally, as an old timer myself I had tried to play ET the game at its time on my cousin's Atari and my first mouse had a serial plug. And I disliked the notion of mice back then because I thought they ll make computing more easy. Idiot younger me lol.
I first started playing PC games when Lego Island was cool. I was 6. Riven: The Sequel to Myst,Sanitarium, Project Journeyman, and MechWarrior 2 were my bread and butter. Before that my uncle had some like 8 bit PC we'd play Monopoly or some shit on. I wish my memory wasn't so fuzzy.
But yeah, I have multiple "it's just another browser, dude" friends. They're also the type who don't understand why I love Bernie Sanders so much. I'm fighting for their rights and they don't even know it. Typical sycophantic rhetoric ad nauseum. I don't even bother, but they love to rile me up.
But yeah, I have multiple "it's just another browser, dude" friends. They're also the type who don't understand why I love Bernie Sanders so much. I'm fighting for their rights and they don't even know it. Typical sycophantic rhetoric ad nauseum. I don't even bother, but they love to rile me up.
My (probably poorly worded) point is that it does, independent of whether it should or not. I agree that approval is unacceptable, which is why I disagreed with the term "deserved". If this was the misunderstanding then I'll accept responsibility for it.
Personally, I like this community and some of the people in it, so it would be a shame to be forced to leave. That said, I wouldn't take it personally and get angry about it, it's completely understandable for communities to not want and banish undesirables. It would certainly give me more time to read In the Buddha's Words.
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Assuming they have a plan for visibility on the store is a pretty big assumption.
This is one of the strangest thing about this EGS stuff.
Some people talk about how EGS is better for visibility because there's no half-baked games or doesn't experience the actual hentai games flood as Steam does, but as mentioned before, if they keep adding new games in their store, it's only a matter of time before you'll have to swim through the whole catalog to find them.
So much for visibility then. That's why I don't get it when journalists or devs talk about how visibility is better on EGS. In the actual store state, it will soon be the opposite. I wonder if they all be going back to Steam for their next games, they should if this was a legit and honest reason to sign with EGS...
