People will joke about it but Farming Sim is huge and a free giveaway is a smart move. But I hope Epic realizes most people who play Farming Sim, ONLY play farming sim.Free stuff. Bridge this week, Farm next week.
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They arent, but it plays better to act the victim, and some do it poorly.
Personally, only Metro might be seeing some of my steambucks when it comes in, but like almost all my pc game purchases, it'll be during a sale. I need to see if it follows 2035 at all and is at least as entertaining
didn't focus already do exclusives tho?
latest list from korea: Farming Simulator was one of few left from previous.
스핀타이어: 머드러너(Spintires: Mudrunner, PC)
페어리아(Faeria, PC)
왕을 위하여(For the King, PC)
티켓 투 라이드(Ticket to Ride, PC)
펜데믹:더 보드 게임(Pandemic: The Board Game, PC)
카르카손:타일즈 앤 택틱스(Carcassonne:Tiles＆Tactics, PC)
호레이스(Horace, PC)
더 브릿지(The Bridge, PC)
remaining from previous (maybe one day)
홉(Hob, PC)
파밍 시뮬레이터 19(Farming Simulator 19)
파이어(Pyre)
킹덤 컴: 딜리버런스(Kingdom Come: Deliverance)
latest list from korea: Farming Simulator was one of few left from previous.
스핀타이어: 머드러너(Spintires: Mudrunner, PC)
페어리아(Faeria, PC)
왕을 위하여(For the King, PC)
티켓 투 라이드(Ticket to Ride, PC)
펜데믹:더 보드 게임(Pandemic: The Board Game, PC)
카르카손:타일즈 앤 택틱스(Carcassonne:Tiles＆Tactics, PC)
호레이스(Horace, PC)
더 브릿지(The Bridge, PC)
remaining from previous (maybe one day)
홉(Hob, PC)
파이어(Pyre)
킹덤 컴: 딜리버런스(Kingdom Come: Deliverance)
I strongly doubt that any game is fully exclusive to Epic's launcher.
I guess he means on PC, by virtue of google not releasing it traditionally anywhere other than preset Epic deals and their own Stadia nobody wants. Could be.
But probably not, I imagine 505 games has some control over that game still regardless of google's buyout of Typhoon Studios and has pre-contracted plans.
But probably not, I imagine 505 games has some control over that game still regardless of google's buyout of Typhoon Studios and has pre-contracted plans.
There's Airborne Kingdom, but that's a case of the devs hating any chance of success they could have.
Anyway, I had to write a small bit about EGS and it made me look back at it. I took a look at this thread first pages, then I decided to think back about how I felt about it initially, and what I think about it now and you know, EGS relevancy surely took a dive. It's not that I stopped disliking them, but it's just that I mostly remember of them when this thread pops up.
Neat, Savage Planet is out on IGG-Games.
Would have bought it if it was out on Steam, GOG or Origin.
Would have bought it if it was out on Steam, GOG or Origin.
Does anyone feel that EGS store is already being sidelined by Epic?
Their exclusivity push seems to have winded down, most developers are actively avoiding mentioning the store in their promotional materials.
It just reeks of toxic asset right now and money sink
Their exclusivity push seems to have winded down, most developers are actively avoiding mentioning the store in their promotional materials.
It just reeks of toxic asset right now and money sink
You never know, but yeah, feels like it has winded down.
I read something Twitter that Epic now wants devs and pubs to approach them for exclusive deals, not the other way around, maybe got something to do with it.
I read something Twitter that Epic now wants devs and pubs to approach them for exclusive deals, not the other way around, maybe got something to do with it.
There is just no big PR for them to steal or brag about anymore. All the big games for the first half of this year are not gonna be moneyhatted by them and already can be bought on steam. A lot of stuff got delayed. They are not moneyhatting Doom Eternal or RE3. Those are pretty much the big upcoming games along with Alyx. They don't have Ubisoft or Deep Silver to fall on for the time being. The only real legit splash news their store can make is a moneyhat for the Avengers game later this year. And they have Godfall. That is pretty much it.
Last year they made a big deal out of their event at GDC and PC gamer show. Lets see if they do something like that again. But honestly for the time being only positive/relevant thing about their store is Fortnite and/or a free game they are giving away. And even that free game has to be popular or good. Also its not gonna help their store much as all of the timed exclusivity runs out and all those games from last year release on steam where a lot of them are gonna sell really well thus making that whole 12% store cut agenda irrelevant.
When Square announced the delay for Avengers, they also updated the game's website and put the Steam logo on it, so I guess not unless Square caves in.
Marvel's Avengers Game
Assemble Earth’s Mightiest Heroes and embrace your powers in the Marvel's Avengers game, by CRYSTAL DYNAMICS and SQUARE ENIX.
avengers.square-enix-games.com
Deep Dive: Epic Games & The Quest to Push Boundaries
Welcome to Master the Meta, a newsletter focused on the business of video games. This is the first of many company deep dives Master the Meta will publish going forward, and there’s no better place to start than with Epic Games, perhaps the most forward thinking business in the industry.
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With all due respect, this reads like an Epic PR piece. There's little acknowledgment of the other side, the consumer's, or that the infographic is revenue, not profit. Also, no source regarding Steam feeling a "pinch".Deep Dive: Epic Games & The Quest to Push Boundaries
Welcome to Master the Meta, a newsletter focused on the business of video games. This is the first of many company deep dives Master the Meta will publish going forward, and there’s no better place to start than with Epic Games, perhaps the most forward thinking business in the industry.
Maybe others will have more patience than me but a quick skim of the article make it fall in the PR category for me.
I agree. I found the article in Tim's timeline. :Kappa:
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Timmy is getting desperate. 
A new newsletter comes out of nowhere, and for their first article they release a text that reads like a PR piece.
A new newsletter comes out of nowhere, and for their first article they release a text that reads like a PR piece.
What magazine is that? Cause it is the first time i hear about it. Does Tim have a custom alert for articles regarding EGS?Deep Dive: Epic Games & The Quest to Push Boundaries
Welcome to Master the Meta, a newsletter focused on the business of video games. This is the first of many company deep dives Master the Meta will publish going forward, and there’s no better place to start than with Epic Games, perhaps the most forward thinking business in the industry.
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A quick search tells me this is the guy who writes all the content of that "industry" newsletter/blog:
The first things I read:
Yeah... I'll keep my mouth shut.
The first things I read:
Yeah... I'll keep my mouth shut.
I will not attack that person for his opinions or work. I simply disagree and find that he has little to add to the conversation. I just find the worshiping of corporations and idolization of business to be often accompanied by a marked disdain for morals and of what is right.
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If that's a reply to my post, do note I did not mean to attack his opinions.
I just linked to the first posts I found, because they, again, read like PR pieces, and display a guy gushing and worshipping a company and its CEO.
To me, these all read like paid publicity.
No problem, I said that for others that might feel tempted to attack the messenger and not the message as is often the case when twitter is linked
.To balance out the negatives, he writes well and it's a skill that should serve him well no matter what he decides in the future.
Okay, so the author looks like a very young dude who is trying to get somewhere, be it with biased reporting or... "crypto".
I don't mean to attack him or his work, but this helps put things into perspective.
And "the motley fool" is, at a quick glance, clickbait for amateur investors. Edit: The Motley Fool - Wikipedia
I don't mean to attack him or his work, but this helps put things into perspective.
And "the motley fool" is, at a quick glance, clickbait for amateur investors. Edit: The Motley Fool - Wikipedia
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I surely hope that's not the case. I frequently link to twitter when I see something "silly", but I would certainly never bother attacking anyone, and I hope people wouldn't do that as well.No problem, I said that for others that might feel tempted to attack the messenger and not the message as is often the case when twitter is linked
This is a hobby, there's no reason to antagonize other people over it.
I'm the kind of guy that, whenever I read something I don't like, I simply "block" accounts (I'm sure I have thousands blocked by now
), I would never waste my time arguing with someone, let alone over videogames. 
Another defense lawyer for Tim. Nothing new, ignore and move on.
"...Epic Games, perhaps the most forward thinking business in the industry. "Deep Dive: Epic Games & The Quest to Push Boundaries
Welcome to Master the Meta, a newsletter focused on the business of video games. This is the first of many company deep dives Master the Meta will publish going forward, and there’s no better place to start than with Epic Games, perhaps the most forward thinking business in the industry.
I regret the bandwidth that my office internet connection wasted by loading this adverticle's preview.
I don't necessarily think they are winding down, but like I said when they delayed their roadmap, they are instead waiting to do big 2.0, 3.0 etc. upgrades at a time, and concentrating their PR efforts around some big milestone instead of trying to push regular updates and dominate the cycle 24/7.
Next time we hear about Epic it's probably gonna be a big dump of features and deals at the same time. They haven't been able to hit their milestones so far, so every time you boast about some small victory, you open yourself to blowback from everything else you are not accomplishing. With a big dump, they at least dominate the news cycle for a while.
Fortnite is also down in hours played and viewership, their last attempts to drive growth (trying to bully google into letting them in) have failed, so it might be just getting other kinds of deals ready, like a Sony partnership or streaming or whatever else.
Next time we hear about Epic it's probably gonna be a big dump of features and deals at the same time. They haven't been able to hit their milestones so far, so every time you boast about some small victory, you open yourself to blowback from everything else you are not accomplishing. With a big dump, they at least dominate the news cycle for a while.
Fortnite is also down in hours played and viewership, their last attempts to drive growth (trying to bully google into letting them in) have failed, so it might be just getting other kinds of deals ready, like a Sony partnership or streaming or whatever else.
I could imagine a big push when the new consoles drop with multiplats releasing for the new console and ONLY on Epic on PC.
Those games are going to cost more to moneyhat, so i'd expect more pr for fewer titles. E3 would be their likely showcase for Deep Pocket Sweeney, if that is indeed going to happen.
Moneyhatting next-gen games for a year just gives people time to upgrade their PCs.
In all seriousness, I see it as a strategy Epic will try. Next-gen console games will be dominating the news cycle and if their name is plastered all over them then that's just more PR for them.
I think this quiet period is no indication that they're done. They're going to keep at this for a while longer yet, and the PC community and communities around specific games is only going to get more and more toxic because of it.
In all seriousness, I see it as a strategy Epic will try. Next-gen console games will be dominating the news cycle and if their name is plastered all over them then that's just more PR for them.
I think this quiet period is no indication that they're done. They're going to keep at this for a while longer yet, and the PC community and communities around specific games is only going to get more and more toxic because of it.
Japanese publishers still look at their home market when they're making business decisions - which is why its taken so long for some of the japanese pubs to even treat the Pc market seriously in the first place - and japanese purchasing habits are such that buying gift cards to make purchases is a preferred option over credit cards.When Square announced the delay for Avengers, they also updated the game's website and put the Steam logo on it, so I guess not unless Square caves in.
Marvel's Avengers Game
Assemble Earth’s Mightiest Heroes and embrace your powers in the Marvel's Avengers game, by CRYSTAL DYNAMICS and SQUARE ENIX.
And EGS doesn't really support that payment option, because they can't undercut steam on revenue share doing so.
so that means they will develop backend and open the store by the end of 2020
given how little they did in 2019
... shuuuure totally believable
also that was already supposed to happen by the end of 2019, so ...so that means they will develop backend and open the store by the end of 2020
given how little they did in 2019
Aren't the concepts of "an open store" and a "curated store" inherently mutually exclusive?
he probably means "open to submissions" ... because right now it's basically "open to whoever we've moneyhatted only"
Having a curated store in a world of Steam is asking for negative PR when the next big hit is rejected by EGS and then sells a fuckton on Steam, then the developer says Epic said no.
We've seen it with GOG crop up every now and then.
We've seen it with GOG crop up every now and then.
There is nothing nefarious about this I'm sure. Epic is a beacon of integrity.
It's interesting that they are now "the Unreal Engine" company and not Epic. Says a lot about what their name has come to mean to the audience despite all the spin.
Until they have effective tools to hide most of the crap, I think a curated store is preferable, both for GOG or Epic. Yes, occasionally an Undertale will slip through their hands but it's pretty rare.
That said, I do think Valve has good tools for hiding the shovelware and I far prefer a free-for-all system when it works well.
Fairly sure it was mid-2019 initially
It's amazing that gifting is not even possible yet....The platform is well behind the competition.
Without moneyhatting it would have never taken off.
I don't mind another player in the game, but to me the EGS is just another step before accessing my content. It serves no purpose, has not benefited the ecosystem in any notable way.
It's just.....there I guess.
Without moneyhatting it would have never taken off.
I don't mind another player in the game, but to me the EGS is just another step before accessing my content. It serves no purpose, has not benefited the ecosystem in any notable way.
It's just.....there I guess.
Admittedly, that group within the company has been quite philanthropic in the pas, Of course that's in the sense of a rich person being philanthropic is mostly self congratulatory bs and for other monetary reasons,, but it's the one side of Epic that isn't totally scummy most of the time. It's given money for education initiatives related to programming and indie game funds with very few strings attached. Or at least, did in the past. Now that they're hemorrhaging money for the store who knowsThere is nothing nefarious about this I'm sure. Epic is a beacon of integrity.
Doesnt Magic Arena have its own client? Also not if you dont spend any money no.