So did people that pre-ordered also get the 20% discount? Or is there now a run of refunding and re-buying?
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I cannot think of why they applied the discount on launch rather than preorder without this being a serious possibility as to the reason.
If it was always their plan, then...
I think Epic issues a partial refund for the difference. It's one of the few advantages they have over Steam.
This must be the first time that I've seen a game being discounted exactly on the day of release. 
Anyway it's damn sad that people actually pre-ordered the KH games at these prices on EGS. Some people really don't care about anything
Anyway it's damn sad that people actually pre-ordered the KH games at these prices on EGS. Some people really don't care about anything
Ignoring the fact that the base price is higher than the base console price (since this is a different issue), it's been obvious for a while that people are willing to pay high prices.
Well, this is probably proof that the games weren't doing so hot, don't you think? They just released full price and no discount Octopath Traveller, what makes you think this was an Square-Enix thing and not an Epic thing?This must be the first time that I've seen a game being discounted exactly on the day of release.
Anyway it's damn sad that people actually pre-ordered the KH games at these prices on EGS. Some people really don't care about anything
if they had to pop an "unplanned" discount with retroactive refunds the games were selling like shit, otherwise they'd have been either discounted since they went up on the store or they'd have remained undiscounted.
I wonder if Square Enix is going to do a stealth release on Steam later. Or is it full one year exclusivity?
Square Enix never discount their game on day one. This is 100% from Epic, along with the Disney+ since Fortnite is also bundled with it.
We have absolutely no idea about Square-Enix deal, we don't know if it's 6 months, 12 months, 1 month or just 1 week.
Wait and see, I guess.
Well I would say they care about Kingdom Hearts a lot.Some people really don't care about anything
It's rather unlikely that Epic lowered the price and pays the difference to SE. This looks like a last-minute promotion sponsored by Disney to me. Not sure why Disney is doing this and why it's communicated so late. Perhaps low pre-orders have something to do with it but not necessarily. Looking at social media, plenty of people seemed to be fine paying full price on EGS.
Good point.
Really? Im seeing the opposite. Checking r/kingdomhearts, ERA and Twitter (searching "kingdom hearts").
Nah man, look at what SE has been doing in terms of pricing of different products, once again, look at Octopath Traveller, this one is the only moneyhatted one, Geoforce, clearly Epic is pushing this one a lot.
Also, commenting is free, from commenting to paying the full price there's an step
Wow, that seems like a massive overreach. I assume this is just for the exclusives? Does GOG or Steam have similar language?Random thought
not at this moment, maybe in the past but not now,
It's for all, not only exclusives. Steam doesn't have, don't know about GoG.
Holy moly, those terms seem so at odds with how publishers approach pricing. I am surprised any of the major publishers sign on to those terms.
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So this is about the 10$ coupon right? So they can slash the price of any game over 15$ without devs giving them shit.Random thought
I think that very much depends on the weight of the dev/publisher, if CDPR, Activision, EA, whathaveyou ask them to lower the price to avoid being part of the coupon sale they'll be more inclined to do so than when RandomAssIndieDev asks. That said RandomAssIndieDev will be happy that's been paid in advance and will get more money later through Steam OR it's already earning money through Steam anyway so I guess they're less likely to care.
edit: also Epic is eating the coupon costs anyway so the only real loss for the indie dev is the devaluing of their product on a store that's used by far less people anyway
edit: also Epic is eating the coupon costs anyway so the only real loss for the indie dev is the devaluing of their product on a store that's used by far less people anyway
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Oh good. My comment was only based on the amount of people with pre-order responding to the 20% discount on social media. If that's all buzz there is, sales aren't probably very good.
It's probably not Square's decision, but it really wouldn't surprise me if Disney pushed them to do the discount to prevent negative press. This would explain the free Disney+ as well.
Disney seems to have a very good relationship with Epic; the only EA games on EGS are Star Wars games for example. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney was the one who decided EGS exclusivity and not Square.
By the way I've noticed that several new games from devs/publishers who did exclusivity before aren't even released on EGS anymore, TW Rome Remaster and the new Rebellion game for example. I wonder why that is. Wasn't Epic trying to get more games on their store or is this still work in progress?
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This is the internet, some people will say they'll shove a rusty rake up their ass, very few will
Do EGS still demand some for of exclusivity? That would be the main reason i could think of or maybe it's more work for an EGS release due to semi-manual pipeline or they don't want to have to compile versions of the game with and without Steamworks ? Or they haven't got around to it yet? Surely a publisher who maybe hasn't gained from EGS Exclusivity as much as they'd like would still want to release it on EGS too if there's no barrier of entry? There's no real reason not to unless it's too much extra work or there's some disagreement or clash between upper management and someone's got a mood on?
The Disney+ thing is true that it's a deal between Epic and Disney as they have done this in the past. The discounts however, I don't think so but let's just say it's a 50/50 as I'm not convinced.
Nope, this was Square Enix by themselves, unfortunately we won't have the details but a few millions were dropped at their door and they were like OMGGGGG!!!! so yeah, this time is not a Disney thing for sure, in fact, Disney wants their properties in as many places as possible because CAPITALISM IS GOOD!
In fact this is also most likely due to Square being interested in expanding into multiple places, although for some reason the smaller stuff is Steam only so, I'm not complaining hahaha
Wired publisher too, the moment epic stops giving big money is the moment most of them drop them if the sales are not worthy.
Afaik Epic doesn't demand exclusivity anymore. I was especially surprised about Rebellion, because I remember that the CEO said Epic how Epic was paying "through the nose" for exclusivity. This means they must have gained a lot from exclusivity since Zombie Army 4 didn't set the world on fire on any platform. If this still doesn't lead to the publisher's loyalty towards EGS, that would be great news for us.
Are they still making every store page manually? I guess they could just be limited by what the employees can type up in a day. That was their excuse a while ago.
The top sellers list was updated again. It is once again a Top 25, but free to play games are still included:
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Top Sellers Top 20
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I swear to god that I'm fucking tired of their shit, keeping track of their changes is like smashing your B*** with a hammer, KEEP A FUCKING STEADY TRACK, FFS.The top sellers list was updated again. It is once again a Top 25, but free to play games are still included:
Top Sellers Top 20
It's the same list as the one they reverted but including the F2P ones, predictable as fuck with KH and Hitman topping (surprise, moneyhats)
Also, let's point the differences.
As far as I see, most of them exclusives, some multistore removed and that's it.
Still useless as we don't have data nor numbers and that's it.
Thanks for the heads up tho.
KH and Hitman 3 bringing in more revenue than RL is rather weird. Either these games are selling very well, or people aren't spending lots of money on RL on EGS.
Or perhaps this list is complete nonsense , that's even more likely
Or perhaps this list is complete nonsense , that's even more likely
Jeff Grubb: I have heard Remedy is going to make Alan Wake 2 with Epic
@11:45 Seems there was some bidding war and Epic had the best publishing deal
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I dear hope so. It's soon been 11 years since "it's not a lake, it's an ocean". I need answers.Jeff Grubb: I have heard Remedy is going to make Alan Wake 2 with Epic
@11:45 Seems there was some bidding war and Epic had the best publishing deal
I still haven't played Alan Wake or American Nightmare yet so i can wait or ignore it if it's stuck on EGS.
It helps that some parts of Hitman 3 are offered for free.
For instance, this:
www.epicgames.com
and this, which is supposed to be 15€, but is free:
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For instance, this:
HITMAN 3 - Free Starter Pack for Free - Epic Games Store
Download and play HITMAN 3 - Free Starter Pack for FREE at the Epic Games Store. Check for platform availability and play today!
www.epicgames.com
and this, which is supposed to be 15€, but is free:
HITMAN 3 Access Pass: HITMAN 1 GOTY Edition - Epic Games Store
Download and play HITMAN 3 Access Pass: HITMAN 1 GOTY Edition at the Epic Games Store.
www.epicgames.com
That would be cool to see.Jeff Grubb: I have heard Remedy is going to make Alan Wake 2 with Epic
@11:45 Seems there was some bidding war and Epic had the best publishing deal
Also I have always said I'll buy exclusives on Epic if they are putting in the money and taking the risk.
Makes me think, I wonder if they would try their luck and make it a timed exclusive from even the consoles? (obviously I hope not).
If that's the price to pay for AW2 to ever be a real thing, so be it.
Day one purchase on EGS.
Hopefully the first one is remastered.
I thought this point was already out of question because, you know, it is completely manual.Or perhaps this list is complete nonsense , that's even more likely
I didn't like Alan Wake very much, enemies constantly spawning out of thin air was extremely annoying for me. But even if I liked it, it wouldn't buy the sequel on EGS anyway. While it's fair the a game published by Epic is exclusive on EGS, Epic is on the very top of my "shitty games company" list. Because of this, there's no way I'll give them my money, no matter what game they keep hostage on their store.
It's been over 10 years since AW. I expect an EGS funding is the only way to get it.
This is also not some "big" blockbuster title that will make people swarm to EGS.
If AW did well I would have expected a company to have funded the development long time ago.
Sometimes I feel like Im one of the few people on the planet who cares about AW 2.
This is also not some "big" blockbuster title that will make people swarm to EGS.
If AW did well I would have expected a company to have funded the development long time ago.
Sometimes I feel like Im one of the few people on the planet who cares about AW 2.
Other companies were trying to fund the game too.It's been over 10 years since AW. I expect an EGS funding is the only way to get it.
This is also not some "big" blockbuster title that will make people swarm to EGS.
If AW did well I would have expected a company to have funded the development long time ago.
Sometimes I feel like Im one of the few people on the planet who cares about AW 2.