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New questionnaire today.

Regarding collaboration suggestions, I wrote these four:
  • Stalker 2
  • Fallout
  • Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
  • Black Lagoon

All four should be good fits to GFL universe.

For your reference, GFL1 had collab with
  • Houkai Gakuen 2
  • Blazblue / Guilty Gear
  • VA-11 Hall-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action
  • Gunslinger Girl
  • DJMAX RESPECT
  • Zombieland Saga
  • The Division
  • Dropkick on My Devil
  • Ghost in the Shell
  • Arena Breakout

And Project Neural Cloud had collab with Stein;Gate.
 
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So I was wrong, Sabrina is not the other banner. It's Suomi. They're just releasing Sabrina's and Cheeta's outfit as well...


This is Cheeta's outfit.


I reached level 60 yesterday, coinciding with getting the achievement to login for 60 days. Quite fast to reach level cap relatively speaking. My only point of comparison is Mihoyo games where it takes several months of dedicated play for Star Rail and ZZZ and I think years for Genshin Impact. Everyone on my list who is still playing has been 60 for weeks now and I'm honestly a bit surprised. I know I've not been efficient with energy so I haven't been leveling up as fast as I could but some of you guys reached 60 almost a month ago and I have no idea how.

Speaking of energy efficiency, apparently they are increasing the energy cap from 180 to 240 so once a day players like me will benefit.
 
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So I was wrong, Sabrina is not the other banner. It's Suomi. They're just releasing Sabrina's and Cheeta's outfit as well...

This is Cheeta's outfit.

I reached level 60 yesterday, coinciding with getting the achievement to login for 60 days. Quite fast to reach level cap relatively speaking. My only point of comparison is Mihoyo games where it takes several months of dedicated play for Star Rail and ZZZ and I think years for Genshin Impact. Everyone on my list who is still playing has been 60 for weeks now and I'm honestly a bit surprised. I know I've not been efficient with energy so I haven't been leveling up as fast as I could but some of you guys reached 60 almost a month ago and I have no idea how.

Speaking of energy efficiency, apparently they are increasing the energy cap from 180 to 240 so once a day players like me will benefit.
Nice to see Suomi's rerun. I might try to go for her V1 if I have remaining pulls after trying to get Dush. Hopefully I can get one or two dupes of Littara as well because she is in my second team. Also target rate-up for the standard banner will be available. I will probably go for Mosin because she's the only one evading me so far.

I reached 60 a week ago. Some friends reached 60 way earlier than me and apparently they bought access keys to replenish their energy lol.

In addition, the current chess minigame isn't so great and I am dreading it. Hopefully the upcoming Vampire Survivor minigame will be fun to play.
 
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My strategy for the board game was to use the directed dice as soon as possible. Use them to land outpost upgrade tiles and then upgrade them. That seems to increase the score you get from every turn so after that you just play the random dice and I'd reach the required score easily. If there's any more strategy than that then I couldn't figure it out.
 
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Vanguard finally uploaded the old trailer song!!! In the game you can hear a few dolls in the dorm (eg. Groza) humming it.
My strategy for the board game was to use the directed dice as soon as possible. Use them to land outpost upgrade tiles and then upgrade them. That seems to increase the score you get from every turn so after that you just play the random dice and I'd reach the required score easily. If there's any more strategy than that then I couldn't figure it out.
Thanks. I haven't even played the second stage. Going to finish them off in the next few days.
 
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Can't believe that my first VampireSurvivor-like experience would be GFL2 lol. Frontline Survivor is really fun.

Edit: I have been intentionally avoiding Vampire Survivor and its clones, because I know they will eat away all my gaming time. :neutral-face:
 
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The Vampire Survivors mode is kind of hard. I played a few tries as Suomi and you just randomly die to bullets if you're not super focused on the game. I don't think I'm going to enjoy this variation of the game.

I got Qiongjiu from the standard banner selector a few days ago and got her weapon from the shop. Leveled her up and got all her neural keys unlocked but for some reason her combat score is still the lowest among all my max level characters. I'm thinking it's because of the RNG attachments that she has on her gun and that I'll have to grind out better ones to improve it. Not too keen on that honestly.

I also got Suomi's weapon from today's banner. Not really interested in pulling the new doll so I figured I'd just make the existing team more powerful.

The standard banner target selection is here. I was thinking of targeting Mosin-Nagant's weapon but I'm wondering if it would be better to get V1 Qiongjiu or V1 Tololo. Which of these would be recommended?
 
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The Vampire Survivors mode is kind of hard. I played a few tries as Suomi and you just randomly die to bullets if you're not super focused on the game. I don't think I'm going to enjoy this variation of the game.

I got Qiongjiu from the standard banner selector a few days ago and got her weapon from the shop. Leveled her up and got all her neural keys unlocked but for some reason her combat score is still the lowest among all my max level characters. I'm thinking it's because of the RNG attachments that she has on her gun and that I'll have to grind out better ones to improve it. Not too keen on that honestly.

I also got Suomi's weapon from today's banner. Not really interested in pulling the new doll so I figured I'd just make the existing team more powerful.

The standard banner target selection is here. I was thinking of targeting Mosin-Nagant's weapon but I'm wondering if it would be better to get V1 Qiongjiu or V1 Tololo. Which of these would be recommended?
I used wawa with the repellent forcefield in frontline survivor. Managed to survive till the end. Going to try Suomi tomorrow.

Somehow my QJ also has lower score than Tololo. Don't know how the score is calculated but obviously QJ deals more damage than Tololo in combat. :unsure:

I need to check their V1 before answering your question. I think gold weapon is definitely worth it though because its damage is vastly superior than purple weapon.
 
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Still early into Halting Station. The dork energy inside the power plant is through the roof. :ROFLMAO:
The standard banner target selection is here. I was thinking of targeting Mosin-Nagant's weapon but I'm wondering if it would be better to get V1 Qiongjiu or V1 Tololo. Which of these would be recommended?
Looking into it, I think V1 QJ and V1 Tololo are both useful against goons only. Most normal stages are not difficult enough to make use of those tbh. Personally I would prioritise Mosin's weapon.
 

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The thing is I haven't actually used Mosin-Nagant since getting Makiatto. She's only half built up to about level 40 or so. Investing in her now is probably just in service of building up a second team for the modes that require it.
 
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The thing is I haven't actually used Mosin-Nagant since getting Makiatto. She's only half built up to about level 40 or so. Investing in her now is probably just in service of building up a second team for the modes that require it.
Oh I see. I assumed she is one of your mains. Maybe QJ or Tololo, then. QJ V1 seems to be more useful to me.
 

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Got Dush, and finished her event (finally supply stages are automatically unlocked so no more rushing). I decided against rolling for a Suomi dupe since my luck with Dush was a bit too good and I prefer growing my crystal supply for upcoming dolls and weapons
Not much to add for the event. Best way to summarize it is the "Clown to Clown communication" meme but with dork instead of clown. Oh, obviously someone already did one for GF1


Very short event though. Only 9 stages and 1 story node, and 3 of those were the usual "level II digital battle" that it's used every time they want to increase the number of stages without writing more story. Not a big issue for me but you do feel this is a filler event. The Doll Community is always nice to see and the interactions are cute but it still feels like something completely separate from the main story. No CGs either (Makiatto's had some)
Oh man the latest update also brought the new Daiyan JP voice actress. I completely forgot her original VA completely disappeared 1 year and half ago (and I mean it, no one can knows where Kami Daimon went). Her new JP voice is Masumi Tazawa and, yeah if you used Daiyan in both GF1 and Neural Cloud the difference is obvious


Since I'm posting here, a word of warning about GF2 spoilers from the latet patch. It seems the devs did not fully scrub the files and quite a lot of future content was found in the text strings (so no models, CGs or similar, simply text). Not posting anything here in case fellow commanders don't want to be spoiled but be careful if you go to other sites
 
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Do you guys generally pull for every character that comes along? Is the game generous enough to be able to do that or are you spending money on pulls?

I've personally been conditioned by mihoyo games to pull once every 2-3 patches which is about as long as it takes to build up resources for double pity in their games. It seems faster to get premium currency in this one but I think that might still be the starting honeymoon period. I have about 175 tickets after pulling Suomi's weapon yesterday so I could get the new character if I wanted to but I just feel like it's better to save for someone that I really do want to get later. Except I don't know who I'd want to get later because this is all new for me (as compared to you guys who will presumably be going after your favorites from the old game).
 
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I'm not f2p (I buy the battlepass, buy the monthly crystal pass, buy costumes I want, I'm what it's usually called a dolphin) so I have more wiggle room compared to others, but for me there are enough benefits to get all new dolls compared to waiting (but I never rolled for dupes so far, and probably never will). I think with a bit of luck (like not always losing the 50/50) even a f2p can get most dolls (at most skipping 1 every few months)
First, the most important element is "getting the doll". By getting a doll you can now level her, limit break her, unlock her neural helix, all things that are useful regardless of the rarity or the amount of dupes. Even the highest tier unit needs to be level 60 and fully set to be able to use her effectively. By having every doll I know I have the choice to "grow" anyone I need if necessary
Second, getting more dolls means your dispatch room can be levelled further. The dispatch buffs can be good and are applied universally to each doll of a certain class (even a new level 1 doll has them). The Dispatch bonuses are probably the easier way for f2p to get stronger unit without rolling everyone
Third, eventually the game requires more than one team, and a team itself can change a lot especially if you are looking at elemental affinities. Dushevnaya for example is the 3rd (well 4th with Lotta but she is SR) Ice element SSR. Her skills buff Makiatto's damage even further, and together with Suomi she can apply more freeze debuffs that further boost Makiatto's damage. You don't need Dush to make Makiatto's high tier, but making a full ice team makes it much easier to deal with the hardest bosses faster (like in Boss fight mode, or in Gunsmoke Frontline). By having all dolls you are ready for any team composition (I always try to keep 18 cores and enough cylinders to get a doll to max if needed)
Fourth, but this is a personal one: modern gachas are putting a bigger focus in making a character "worth" even if they're low tier. The dispatch buff is a perfect example, but you also have things like affinity systems, well modelled graphics, costumes, specific voicelines, exclusive stages or unlocks. Basically all things that are unrelated to the actual gameplay, so features that benefits top tiers and shitters alike

But the biggest part is that I only play one gacha, and one alone. Well all right I also play GF1 and its spinoff Neural Cloud, but I was fully f2p in GF1 for the entire run, and the game is almost at maintenance mode in global. Same for NC although I did spend something with that (and that one is also on its way to maintenance mode). What I mean is that I spend on GF2 the equivalent amount of money that I would spend on a normal game with a similar quality. If I got enjoyment out of GF2 and I end up having access to all content (so the dolls) without wasting hundreds of € then so be it. If one day the game becomes too greedy I will most likely stop all spending and rolling and just ride it out until the end
 
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Do you guys generally pull for every character that comes along? Is the game generous enough to be able to do that or are you spending money on pulls?
I'm F2P only and aiming to collect every doll. I missed out on the Sojourners/Doll Community event, but I haven't missed out on any events since then. I budgeted 100 pulls each time and managed to win 50/50 for both Makiatto and Daiyan. Doing the dailies and earning at least 500-600 Collapse Pieces a day is essential to keep this kind of budget, which I don't think you'll have trouble with if your commander is already at level 60.

Having said that, I'm still 7,500 Collapse Pieces away to meet my budget for Dush's event. :flare_lmao:
 
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I originally intended to skip Daiyan but changed my mind: I want to collect all the dolls. Don't mind the gold weapons for now. I am complete F2P, and if I miss a doll, the plan is that I will pull those dolls when they re-run. So far I only miss Ullrid and Dush due to losing their 50/50, so I am waiting for the second chance.

My plan to stick to F2P will likely changed by Leva / UMP45 because she is my favorite character. Don't plan to V6 her but if I lose her 50/50 I will likely swipe. I also plan to buy merchs (figures and toys!) so I am supporting Mica in other ways.

Here is my progress.


Except I don't know who I'd want to get later because this is all new for me (as compared to you guys who will presumably be going after your favorites from the old game).
My recommendation is that you pull and build the character you like, based on your preference on appearance or personality. The game isn't too hard or punishing, and I think it will stay that way for a good while, so most dolls should be fine for the job. Even SRs are perfectly usable, too. Lotta is extremely good because she can spam ultimate every turn. Littara is regarded as one of the weakest characters in the game but, as you can see, I really like her so I raised her to Lv60.

Mica is also buffing some weaker dolls in CN server, and they can always add other mechanics to strengthen them in the future. In GFL1, there is the mod system which is basically limit break. The dolls can go through the level limit, earn new appearance and new skill. The main doll of GFL1, M4A1, originally was not a top tier character. But after going through mod, she became one of the best characters in the game. I suspect Groza will go through the same thing in GFL2, too.

Since I'm posting here, a word of warning about GF2 spoilers from the latet patch. It seems the devs did not fully scrub the files and quite a lot of future content was found in the text strings (so no models, CGs or similar, simply text). Not posting anything here in case fellow commanders don't want to be spoiled but be careful if you go to other sites
I joined a GFL discord group where a member posted the datamine. Yeah, looks like CN year 2 plan is in there. I gave it a quick glance but will shut up about the details. Many people will get wind of it in the coming days so definitely be careful.
 
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Finished Halting Station. Too short, but the dorks are fun. Patiently wait for the next Doll Community story. I wish for a good balance of story and characterisation like Glass Island event.

Ullrid nerding out on squeeze toys is hilarious. I have this one in my meme collection.
 

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I just did the event story and I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed. All my fears about the writing are coming true. The entire story was maybe 6 paragraphs worth of writing and it can be summarized in 2. But the worst thing is it wasn't even good writing. It barely moved the doll collective story forward. It amounted to nearly nothing in the end.

I don't know what is going on with the writing in CN and what troubles they're having with rewrites and stuff but this is just awful. 15 minutes of side stories wrapped in a 30 minute package every 3 weeks is not enough. This cadence is going to kill the game for me.
 
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There is an alleged huge spoiler regarding certain doll circling around. Datamined from the latest CN version. Be careful if you don't want to see it.

It was originally posted by 404Griffin on twitter and instagram.
 

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I just did the event story and I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed. All my fears about the writing are coming true. The entire story was maybe 6 paragraphs worth of writing and it can be summarized in 2. But the worst thing is it wasn't even good writing. It barely moved the doll collective story forward. It amounted to nearly nothing in the end.

I don't know what is going on with the writing in CN and what troubles they're having with rewrites and stuff but this is just awful. 15 minutes of side stories wrapped in a 30 minute package every 3 weeks is not enough. This cadence is going to kill the game for me.
I'll be honest: no one should be forced to play something if they don't enjoy it. There is nothing wrong if you want to leave this game because you don't like the story. I play very "casually" (in the sense it's not a game I invest a lot of time, I mostly do dailies and spend stamina and that's it) so I don't mind having 2.5 weeks of nothing between each bit of story (even if it's pointless or straight up bad) because the games I actually invest my full time into are standard full-packaged games on Steam
If you decide to continue, and if it makes you feel better, you won't see the doll community again for at least a year (and I agree the writing team doesn't know what to do with this group either), also (spoilers from datamine) the next 3 upcoming characters are all main story events continuing straight from "Daiyan"'s event
 
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I fully agree with STHX's post. It is totally understandable that if any of you wants to drop the game. Even as someone who mostly enjoys playing it, I have grievances towards Daiyan patch and Dushe patch, and tbh Gunsmoke is too long and very boring. :ROFLMAO:

I stay because this is the only gacha that I play, there are characters that I want to meet and it is one game that I truly enjoy playing (90% of the time I don't use auto) or simply looking at (refitting room, not the dorm lol). Obviously not all players feel the same. If you are not enjoying it please don't let FOMO stops you from dropping.
 

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There is nothing wrong if you want to leave this game because you don't like the story.
It's not that I don't like the story.... It's that they're not delivering enough of it in a cohesive manner for my liking. I don't dislike the game at all. I reached the level cap which, while not hard, at least demonstrates that I enjoy the game enough to keep playing it. There's no FOMO at all either. It's just that, to me, the story is the binding reagent of this game. The daily and weekly stuff and the events are what you do while waiting for the actual story to be delivered. And in my mind, they are not delivering on the story.

It's not like they are unable to do it. The universe they've set up is interesting. The main story has been slow but intriguing. The first doll collective event story was really good because they managed to introduce them and deliver a vignette showing how desparate this universe is and it was all done in the span of one chapter. This new chapter was basically Dushevnaya doing 4 errands for the other dolls and they managed to clear out the collapse radiation to set up their farm. They didn't touch upon the mystery of the location they're at nor who had been running the place or why or what happened to them. It was a sliver of storytelling and I don't know how anyone can be satisfied with it.

With live service games the developers need to be at least 6-9 months ahead of the live game when it comes to development. They need to know exactly when any doll is going to release so that they can naturally write them into the story or event that appears during their banner. Does it feel like that's happening properly in the global release? Suomi's story in the first banner was short and ridiculous and a huge step down from the other event story (doll collective). Daiyan barely appeared in her event story. Dushevnaya was doing errands in hers. The only one that sort of worked was Makiatto's story and that's because it was entirely separate side story. And the mindblowing thing is that we're a year behind the China server. Everything we should be getting should have been fully planned and executed a long time ago. And yet it seems like they're changing the order of the banners which means they're having to stitch together event stories for us and it all feels chaotic, unfinished and unsatisfactory.

I've read that the first game had a very hard hitting story. They've demonstrated signs of that in our global release (such as the Colphne side story). I know you can't expect it immediately out of the gate but does it feel like we're on the way to getting there? The 8 chapters of main story that we've gotten in 2 months is the entirety of main story content that China in a whole year! That should send alarm bells ringing both for the developers and us players. I've read that they've been having trouble with development there with rewrites and voice acting issues and all but I feel like they need to fix this asap.

I still like the game. I've spent a bit of money on it with the battle passes and monthly things and the $50 currency bundle. I don't regret it or anything. I understand that updating the game every 3 weeks means they can only deliver 1 chapter of story every update. But at least make that chapter count. Move the main story forward if you can. If you're doing a side story make it feel meaty and complete (which you've done before). This Dushevnaya event was a big bag of nothing. That's why I'm disappointed and concerned about the future of the game.
 
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I think Dush's event story is fine as far as a slice of life story goes. Like, it's not going to win the Akutagawa Prize anytime soon (and not with the localisation effort it currently have anyway), but it's servicable enough to introduce her character.

But also this opinion is coming from someone who loves iyashikei so ymmv. :flare_bath:
 
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does it feel like we're on the way to getting there?
If you want main story progression, Klukai and Mechty event (chapter 9 and 10) will be your thing. It is long and meaty, has new characters, event CG, cutscenes, voice-acting... It should come within the next 2-3 months if leaks can be trusted.
 

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If you want main story progression, Klukai and Mechty event (chapter 9 and 10) will be your thing. It is long and meaty, has new characters, event CG, cutscenes, voice-acting... It should come within the next 2-3 months if leaks can be trusted.
That's good to hear. To be clear, it's not that I just want more main story stuff. I want more and better story stuff in general, even if they are side stories that aren't connected to the main plot. I want them to consistently stay above a quality threshold that they've demonstrated they are able to clear.
 
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That's good to hear. To be clear, it's not that I just want more main story stuff. I want more and better story stuff in general, even if they are side stories that aren't connected to the main plot. I want them to consistently stay above a quality threshold that they've demonstrated they are able to clear.
Yeah, I don't know how the story in these big or character events will be but I surely hope they will become better and better. Compared with Dush event, personally I am more unhappy with Daiyan event because she was just... there. At least Dush shows her quirk and is in the spotlight in the event. I understand the reason (due to the rewrite and controversy) but I definitely expected much more.
 
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Oh, a design for a CN upcoming unit has been revealed. I'm really curious about how she will be implemented story wise considering her role in GF1
 
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Oh, a design for a CN upcoming unit has been revealed. I'm really curious about how she will be implemented story wise considering her role in GF1
I knew that she was teased for CN, also saw people mentioning that Lenna's dusty journal hinted her "return" (I haven't read it yet), but it is still shocking to see that she is really going to be playable again in GFL2.

I guess her and Leva's return to the frontline will be the next major story event of CN. Very excited to see how the story will turn out when it comes to global. On the other hand, it will be hard to resist from looking at any story spoiler.

Also, I was screaming inside when I saw the full portrait of Leva. That is beautiful.
 

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With the Imoko maid here, that means next event chapter is 8.75
So the story is all catched up for chapter 9 and klukay
May the god of gachas have mercy on our crystals
 
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I am happy to see more QOL updates. The recent updates were great so more are certainly welcome.

Yoohee was mentioned, so other regions' daughters will expedite. We should be able to see EN daughter M200 soon.

People have looked into the Morse Code and said it hinted HK416 (Klukai). Looks like the leak is real. Sleepo Beepo / G11 / Mechty will be next, then.

So main story progression in the upcoming three patches. Can't wait.