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Mor

Me llamo Willy y no hice la mili, pero vendo Chili
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So FF7R is PS4 exclusive, then a new version that is also exclusive, then port it to pc as an Epic exclusive.

Is this a new record in number of exclusivities in a game? Or that goes to Tetris Efect?
Tetris Effect had 3 exclusivities in total.
Yeah, Tetris Effect is up there. PS4 for a year, Epic for a year, Oculus Quest somehow squeezed in there, and Microsoft for a year with exclusive MP. I'm surprised Stadia didn't get a taste.
MS was 6 months :)
 

Durante

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The whole Wolfire vs Steam case feels like it's completely built on misinformation...
I think it's more built on a series of misunderstandings of how basically every single business relationship works. Most of the complaints seem to boil down to "Valve isn't running an independently vetted equal-opportunity charity". I mean, it would be nice if they did, but no one else is either and you can't legally force them to do that.
 
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Dragon1893

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My son and his friends are 9 years old so they started gaming recently, including fortnite. For them that's how things work, there's no barrier of entry to play a game, and if they like it, they stick around and buy useless in-game crap. They still don't have the perception of how outragous the prices are considering what you're getting for your money, but they are formatted to expect gaming to function like this. Giftcards they get on their birthday, etc go straight into fortnite or rocket league, buying other games doesn't even cross their minds.
 

Swenhir

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It works for them.
They treat pc customers like garbage and when they eventually release their games people flock to buy them (at a ridiculous price most of the times mind you), so what kind of message do you think that sends them? Who is doing the wrong thing here?
Both. People defending FFXII selling at 50 bucks, people who tell others to buy N:A anyway, this sort of stuff. The gaming community is working against itself but that isn't a first and a lot of the people defending this stuff are actually console players.

At the end of the day I agree that people buying and giving them money are casting the only vote that matters.
 
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Kyougar

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My son and his friends are 9 years old so they started gaming recently, including fortnite. For them that's how things work, there's no barrier of entry to play a game, and if they like it, they stick around and buy useless in-game crap. They still don't have the perception of how outragous the prices are considering what you're getting for your money, but they are formatted to expect gaming to function like this. Giftcards they get on their birthday, etc go straight into fortnite or rocket league, buying other games doesn't even cross their minds.
And with """"customers"""" this young, they will always associate Fortnite and the company/launcher they played it through as "that childish thing I did when I was young, but I am an adult now and I want nothing to do with it anymore".

Also a good "trick" to show what money is worth to young children is to buy a bunch of sweets, drinks, Icecream, and other things that they love and place it on the table. "All of this cost the same as one of your costumes on Fortnite"
 

Alextended

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God damn, RE8 is 80 euros on Steam? What the fuck? And lol @ thinking Re:Verse will sell at that price too.... Edit: Maybe I got it wrong, that's how they showed in releases but it seems that price is a bundle for 7 & 8. And there's also a bundle for 8 & Re:Verse for 59.99. Steam is being weird in displaying that stuff I guess...
 

fantomena

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God damn, RE8 is 80 euros on Steam? What the fuck? And lol @ thinking Re:Verse will sell at that price too.... Edit: Maybe I got it wrong, that's how they showed in releases but it seems that price is a bundle for 7 & 8. And there's also a bundle for 8 & Re:Verse for 59.99. Steam is being weird in displaying that stuff I guess...
For whatever reason it's the highest priced packaged that shows up in Steam search. The game is 60 euros.
 

Nabs

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I guess PC is going to get screwed out of a Judgment 2 announcement as long as that Stadia deal runs. Lets hope it's not an entire year.

Yuck.
 
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Cacher

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Another stupid decision from Sega. They could have a simultaneous release with Judgement 2 on every platform if they had released 1 on PC instead of Stadia.

Edit: remove swearing to maintain civility:face-without-mouth:
 

fantomena

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How is Returnal? I am quite fond of roguelikes, should I keep it in mind if it ever comes to PC?
I haven't really played more than around 30 min, but it's good, I like the mysterious "alien" environment and lore and the gameplay is tight and fast-paced. Nice looking game too. Risk of Rain 2 on PC is the closest to the game I think.

I do think the game resonates more with the PC audience though. I have a bit of problem with aiming in the game on PS5. I definetly think the game would be easier to play with kb/m.
 
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texhnolyze

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It works for them.
They treat pc customers like garbage and when they eventually release their games people flock to buy them (at a ridiculous price most of the times mind you), so what kind of message do you think that sends them? Who is doing the wrong thing here?
Yup. PC gamers reward them for being treated like garbage. I have no words.
 

TheTrain

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Yup. PC gamers reward them for being treated like garbage. I have no words.
Its a lose-lose situation. If you buy anything you are rewarding them even if they threat you like garbage, if you don't buy anything they'll have the excuse to just stop port new games. As a customer you can't win whatever you do, only thing that probably send a message is to express dissent...nothing more

Just look at what SEGA did in front of a bag of money coming from STADIA. (Of all the things available right there they choose the motherfucking STADIA) and its not like that they did a lot of wrong things during these years, aside some late port from the japanese branch.
 

Tizoc

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xinek

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It works for them.
They treat pc customers like garbage and when they eventually release their games people flock to buy them (at a ridiculous price most of the times mind you), so what kind of message do you think that sends them? Who is doing the wrong thing here?
Maybe it's my old age, but I'm so weary of "consumers" getting blamed for stuff like this. Companies will continue to do stupid self-centered shit no matter what individuals do. You just can't win. It's the same thing with EGS exclusivity -- when a game comes to Steam, I feel gross buying it. But on the other hand, if it doesn't sell on Steam, does that send a good message? It's almost like we're all forced to participate in systems that don't benefit us. On the other hand, it also feels so good to rage at people supporting shit company decisions, so I definitely feel you here.
 

Panda Pedinte

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I don't think it was posted here


Umbrella is the second character from the Skullgirls Season Pass.
 
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