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I have cleaned my twitter account a while back from posts and most follows, but I keep it around for now because reading threaded twitter posts is kind of pain without an account and there's still some occasional Ukraine related threads posted there. Seems most have moved to bluesky though, so I'll probably nuke it from orbit sooner or later.

I deleted my facebook early 2019 or so.
 

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LMAO oops. dont ban me lashman.
 
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LEANIJA

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There's a new campaign called Free our Feeds with the aim to "billionaire-proof" Bluesky and the AT protocol;


The initiative, Free Our Feeds, aims to protect Bluesky’s underlying technology, the AT Protocol, and leverage it to create an open social media ecosystem that can’t be controlled by a single person or company, including Bluesky itself.

The goal of the initiative is to establish a public-interest foundation that would fund the creation of new interoperable social networks that can run on the AT Protocol, and build independent infrastructure to support these new platforms, even if Bluesky were to end up in the hands of billionaires.
 

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There's a new campaign called Free our Feeds with the aim to "billionaire-proof" Bluesky and the AT protocol;

and Doctorow's commentary on it:


and a good response to it:

Initial response to @pluralistic regarding #FreeOurFeeds
Want to thank Cory Doctorow for answering questions about his support for Free Our Feeds here:
Pluralistic: Billionaire-proofing the internet; Picks and Shovels Chapter One (Part 5) (14 Jan 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
What follows is a response in the form of a list of concerns about FOF.
Cory rightly took exception to the "scolding" tone of some of the discussion so far. It is hoped that here, at least, we can keep it focused on the substance of this issue.
So, here goes...

1. Primary goal seems to be to build a second relay for Bluesky so people can exit the corporate site if it becomes enshittified. Necessarily this will involve building undemonstrated technology effectively for Bluesky that they should have done more than promise will work. So it becomes public funding of corporate owned technology. There is no guarantee that it will work. It depends on cooperation of Bluesky. Even once implemented there is no guarantee it will fulfill it's function as the company will certainly retain a myriad ways of hobbling the interface should they desire to do so. Bottom line, is it an escape hatch to nowhere?

2. The technology itself. If you read Christine Lemmer-Webber's analysis of the AT Protocol it seems like the protocol itself is incompatible with the FOF purpose of independent decentralization of nodes. Certainly not low cost decentralization. Understand BSky pushes back on this, but the fact that they have not demonstrated this capability and the prospective FOF cost of millions of dollars to make a second relay makes it seem like Christine is right. In any case, why should the public do this before the company first demonstrates the capability?

3. FOF Personnel is tech and AI heavy, and with the exception of you, does not include clear advocates for open truly public systems. The recent direction of the Mozilla Foundation and their top line involvement is cause for concern.

4. Have not been able to locate any documentation on this foundation other than the splashy, but thin, website. What is the legal structure? Who are the officers? Any financials? Is there any specific mission statement? Implementation plan? Where does the money donated go? Who/what is it spent on? Etc.

5. Bluesky corporate structure. Bluesky represents itself as owned by Jay Graber and the employees, when it reality it is owned by a who's who of Silicon Valley VC's and crypto entities like Blockchain Capital. They are about to close a new funding round led by Bain Capital expected to value the company at $700M. What about all of this makes this the place to invest public money to escape billionaires?

6. Sucking money and attention from public social media. We are at a critical moment. As a result of the election, the public has become aware of the power of billionaires to shape opinion. We have a moment in time to help move people onto public platforms which are truly defensible. Bluesky is another corporate trap, where people are not safe from the same thing that has happened in previous cycles of enshittification. It is not clear FOF can provide that safety for reasons stated above. So, the fear is funding this multiyear, super expensive effort with public money actually detracts, distracts and takes funding away from the absolutely necessary goal of actually building public social media, effectively becoming a poison pill.
 

LEANIJA

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So I thought there was a general politics here but I cant find it, so Im posting it here, since, well, it fits as well.

As you know, America elected Trump again, somehow; and at his inauguration, his "buddy" Elon Musk, who unfortunately owns Twitter, did what appears like a Hitler salute



I think its completely intentional. The way his hand isnt stretched out fully, and the angle of his arm gives him and his supporters leeway to claim its not a Nazi salute, but it appeals to all his and Trumps extreme right followers, and they all know how it was meant. And he knows he can get away with anything now.

But judge for yourself. There is a full video of his speech, too, if you want to get the full picture and, well, listen to him speak.
 
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Oh that's fully intentional. Even if he is just an edge lord doing it for internet points, it doesnt matter, what matters is that the next ones to build gas chambers have been acknowledged and feel they can do what they want.
 

LEANIJA

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I did mention wanting to delete my social media accounts a week or two ago, and Ive done that — well, I've deactivated Instagram and Facebook, and deleted the others. I keep the Mastodon account around because why not. Not that I use it or anything, but its not exactly doing any harm. I have checked on Bluesky and it seems fine, but I dont currently have any need for social media whatsoever.



regarding Musk etc; I didnt follow up on what you said Le Pertti because I didnt wanna drag the thread down with too much negative politics, but I did watch this interview by Jon Stewart of the Daily Show with sociologist Brooke Harrington, who unpacked very well how the current "generation" of super wealthy people approach power, its quite interesting:


(why post this in the social media thread? because social media plays such a big role in the way populists like Trump and Musk gather power these days)
 
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So when are we moving to NodeBB?:D


can we do this here?
We should !
 
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