|OT| The PC Hardware Thread -- Buy/Upgrade/Ask/Answer

Waiting for the new parts, but it seems PSU and case are ordered, so it will be somewhere beginning of June when I get my hands to all parts.
 
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It needs 4 seperate PCI-E cables, luckilynI had some spare as it says not to use splitters.
The stand that came with it is massively too short, have bodged something together for now until I can make something at work.

Makes my old 3080ti look tiny.

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Decent clock speed when playing Oblivion Remaster

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It needs 4 seperate PCI-E cables, luckilynI had some spare as it says not to use splitters.
The stand that came with it is massively too short, have bodged something together for now until I can make something at work.

Makes my old 3080ti look tiny.

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Decent clock speed when playing Oblivion Remaster

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Does your power supply not support 12HPVR cables? Most newer Corsair PSUs should have them, I would think.
 
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That's the cable I mean. It somehow supports two of them at the same time, if I read this. (kinda overkill)

This way you don't need those 4 red cables and the adapter, just this one that goes directly to the PSU.
 
I see.
That would look neater, I'll have to dig out my PSU box sometime and see if it's in there.
 
That's the cable I mean. It somehow supports two of them at the same time, if I read this. (kinda overkill)

This way you don't need those 4 red cables and the adapter, just this one that goes directly to the PSU.

Just checked, I dont have those cables with my PSU- it's from 2022, so maybe it's too old.
 
Just checked, I dont have those cables with my PSU- it's from 2022, so maybe it's too old.
I think this is still fairly recent, that's why there was all that panic about these kinds of cables melting. I think the problem is technically still there, and can happen if you seat them incorrectly (as in, having the cable almost half way loose). Of course, still horrible as the PSU should never allow so much energy to be send through any pin as to cause a legit fire hazard.
 
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Yeah, I have been on the Corsair website and ordered this just to be safe.

As these cables are a few years old.

Shame they dont do them in red to match the rest of my cables.
 
Yeah, I have been on the Corsair website and ordered this just to be safe.

As these cables are a few years old.

Shame they dont do them in red to match the rest of my cables.
Spray them :D

Got now the MOBO yesterday, and GPU last week. Where are the rest of the parts :P
 
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So in my ambition to save for a PC, I think I will go the route of buying hardware when I can, so to collect parts. But to keep an eye on whats coming and rumours and all that, what hardware site do you all vouch for?

Like the first thing I think I will buy is the case, since I would guess that is the one least likely to become obsolete, but maybe there are rumours of a refresh coming or something.
 
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When it comes to buying hardware, what is the best and cheapest way to do it? Amazon? Is importing an option?

Li Kao Do you know by any change good French places to buy?
Not really, if we are talking cheap places.
I look at Amazon by default because they have the best prices, and if it's not sold by Amazon but a third party I look at regular priced but reliable places like LDLC or Materiel.net, even Fnac if we are talking consoles.
I 99% of the time do not fuck with third party sellers, it's a plague.

Like even for my cat litter this week, I insta bought elsewhere because hir brand was only sold by a 3rd party. It's a fucking red flag.
 
Not really, if we are talking cheap places.
I look at Amazon by default because they have the best prices, and if it's not sold by Amazon but a third party I look at regular priced but reliable places like LDLC or Materiel.net.
I 99% of the time do not fuck with third party sellers, it's a plague.
Yeah been looking around and it does indeed seem like amazon has the best prices, but it's not by much. I did want to support local business but I also want to afford to buy it.XD
 
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Le Pertti Ever heard of pcpartpicker? I find it to be the best resource to search for parts or to just look for what's good at any given moment.

You can select any region you want and within the EU most stores ship to France, and considering the price of the parts it's often free, so you can check french, german, spanish, italian... stores as well while hunting for the best deal.
 
Le Pertti Ever heard of pcpartpicker? I find it to be the best resource to search for parts or to just look for what's good at any given moment.

You can select any region you want and within the EU most stores ship to France, and considering the price of the parts it's often free, so you can check french, german, spanish, italian... stores as well while hunting for the best deal.
Oh I have actually used that site, to see what kind of builds others have done with the case I will base my build on, didn't know one could shop through it. But yeah definitely using that site now!:)
 
So in my ambition to save for a PC, I think I will go the route of buying hardware when I can, so to collect parts. But to keep an eye on whats coming and rumours and all that, what hardware site do you all vouch for?

Like the first thing I think I will buy is the case, since I would guess that is the one least likely to become obsolete, but maybe there are rumours of a refresh coming or something.

I'm in the UK and I get all my hardware from Scan.co.uk, Overclockers.co.uk or Amazon


Edit: I misread your post
 
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I hope my 3080 can last until this shitshow is over/fixed. Or better yet, AMD can match the dlss4 quality and RT performance quickly.
If your 3080s with its current cable hasn't burned down yet, then you are fine. The problem is with either with bad cables, which are not to spec or sometimes due to bad cable mounts, say when the cable isn't fully seated or extremely bent. The problem is that usually, power cable standards are designed with so much headroom that even being a bit out of spec (while not great) wouldn't mean that something potentially melts. 12VHPWR is designed with so little headroom, that not being up to spec is a fire hazard, only made worse if due to user handling, the cables don't connect well, and hence uneven resistances on the pins can occur due to bad mounts, even if the cable is fine.
 
If your 3080s with its current cable hasn't burned down yet, then you are fine. The problem is with either with bad cables, which are not to spec or sometimes due to bad cable mounts, say when the cable isn't fully seated or extremely bent. The problem is that usually, power cable standards are designed with so much headroom that even being a bit out of spec (while not great) wouldn't mean that something potentially melts. 12VHPWR is designed with so little headroom, that not being up to spec is a fire hazard, only made worse if due to user handling, the cables don't connect well, and hence uneven resistances on the pins can occur due to bad mounts, even if the cable is fine.

My 3080 is the usual 2x8 pin, so it'll be fine, What I meant was I hope it can last until the 12v shitshow is changed/"fixed" for my next GPU upgrade, whatever that GPU is. Already watch every content of the 12v saga so far from GN/der8. Don't really want to have a GPU with that connector if I can, although I know with midrange cards it's probably fine.
 
My 3080 is the usual 2x8 pin, so it'll be fine, What I meant was I hope it can last until the 12v shitshow is changed/"fixed" for my next GPU upgrade, whatever that GPU is. Already watch every content of the 12v saga so far from GN/der8. Don't really want to have a GPU with that connector if I can, although I know with midrange cards it's probably fine.
probably makes sense to avoid Nvidia then? I don't see Nvidia changing course.
 
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I put together a "dream" build, not only is the cost like 2500 euros! But something I also been wondering about, it says the build will consume 550W of power, like I knew PCs a super power hungry, but is that under heavy load or just minimum load? It's quite a difference, I will be going from Mac minis 65w under heavy load, or ps5 pros 230w under heavy load. My partner is going to kill me when she sees the bump in the electric bill.XD
 
I put together a "dream" build, not only is the cost like 2500 euros! But something I also been wondering about, it says the build will consume 550W of power, like I knew PCs a super power hungry, but is that under heavy load or just minimum load? It's quite a difference, I will be going from Mac minis 65w under heavy load, or ps5 pros 230w under heavy load. My partner is going to kill me when she sees the bump in the electric bill.XD
If you mean the Estimate wattage that Pcpartpicker shows, it's the maximum wattage if all your components are at max (which realistically will rarely happen but you can get close to it).
 
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Even though that’s the max wattage and won’t be at that always, a PC is going to have a higher baseline/idle wattage than those other devices.
 
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this is full system power draw in idle from pcgameshardware, the test system has a big gpu but also probably nothing attached to it otherwise that would draw extra power, intel and old amd range from 50-70W while the 7000 and 9000 series from amd go above 90W
 
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Are there any new processors on the horizon? Would be cool if there was any good ARM alternatives on PC. Apple really did good with the M series of chips, very energy efficient and powerful.
 
I was able to manage to order a build. 9800X3D based, besides the 9950X3D not being available at a non-scalped price, I think I'd just be that much more nervous installing that much more of an expensive CPU. Not sure when I'll actually assemble but it has been >6 years.

Getting over a cold and having survived a whole host of horrible irl stuff, I built the PC today. Nothing too noteworthy except despite not doing any build in the last >6 years I feel I did carry over my skills, and I didn't really feel myself lacking any wisdom from past builds. It was the easiest build so far despite my eyesight not being what it used to be, I think my coordination keeps improving.

It's my first non-silent build in a while (that is, I'm used to stifling cases for the past few builds), and I'm not sure of my opinion of it just yet. I think I would have kept with that style of case if it were still popular and evolving like other cases. On this point, I blame the average PC builder and the conventional wisdom of 100% of the influencers in the space.

I still kinda feel like things have stopped changing overall in PCs. I think even my previous PC and the one before that had larger differences -- with the introduction of nvme drives / M.2, and a host of other changes. Heck I still just have 1 USB C slot on the front panel of my new PC, although my mobo could support 2.
 
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At this point, at 2025 pricing, I really don’t know what my next hardware will be.
A ruinous new PC ? A Deck ? A fucking console ?

2500 for a gaming PC is a good 1000 too high.
 
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After 5 years I will buy a new PC. Don't really have much experience with the current market but this is what I picked:


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Is that OK?
The pulse 9070 seems to be the best card of the bunch in regard to noise and heat
The CPU watercooler should be ok?

I won't be building it myself, Alternate.de will put that thing together but will take 200€ for it. There are other cheaper alternatives but their configurators are very limited and often have higher priced items from other manufacturers instead.

Only issue is, that the Pulse is the only card that is currently not available at alternate :(
 
Got and Asus Prime 9070 xt for AMD launch prices.

How screwed I am if I have to make valid the warranty?

What do you mean? Why would you willingly void the warranty? Can't you just make a RMA claim and get a replacement?
If you're afraid of availability, it seems to be a lot better now than a couple months ago, at least in europe. In the us things are still dire from what I understand.

After 5 years I will buy a new PC. Don't really have much experience with the current market but this is what I picked:


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Is that OK?
The pulse 9070 seems to be the best card of the bunch in regard to noise and heat
The CPU watercooler should be ok?

I won't be building it myself, Alternate.de will put that thing together but will take 200€ for it. There are other cheaper alternatives but their configurators are very limited and often have higher priced items from other manufacturers instead.

Only issue is, that the Pulse is the only card that is currently not available at alternate :(

I'm not really sure the 7800x3d really needs watercooling, a good dual fan air cooler should suffice, but you need to make sure it can fit the case as the 9070xt is a chunky boy and will use a lot of internal space and you seem to be going for a mid case.
200€ for assembly feels insane. I also asked the store I bought things from to assemble my pc and it costed 37€...
 
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What do you mean? Why would you willingly void the warranty? Can't you just make a RMA claim and get a replacement?
If you're afraid of availability, it seems to be a lot better now than a couple months ago, at least in europe. In the us things are still dire from what I understand.



I'm not really sure the 7800x3d really needs watercooling, a good dual fan air cooler should suffice, but you need to make sure it can fit the case as the 9070xt is a chunky boy and will use a lot of internal space and you seem to be going for a mid case.
200€ for assembly feels insane. I also asked the store I bought things from to assemble my pc and it costed 37€...
dunno why the part picker declares it as a mid tower
I think, that the tower is one big case?

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dunno why the part picker declares it as a mid tower
I think, that the tower is one big case?

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Technically that's a mid-case (Mid-Tower Vs Full-Tower: What You Need To Know For Your Build) but it should be fine, there seems to be a lot of room to fit everything.
If you end up going with air cooling I'd probably put an exhaust fan on top next to the cpu cooler just to help cool a bit more. The amazon listing you sent as a 5-fan version that might be interesting for this use case.
 
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Technically that's a mid-case (Mid-Tower Vs Full-Tower: What You Need To Know For Your Build) but it should be fine, there seems to be a lot of room to fit everything.
If you end up going with air cooling I'd probably put an exhaust fan on top next to the cpu cooler just to help cool a bit more. The amazon listing you sent as a 5-fan version that might be interesting for this use case.
with the watercooling (i just care about noise levels, especially because it will sit on the desk right/behind me instead and not on the floor) it would have 7 fans. 3 front, 3 top, 1 back.

Do you think I should wait for the Pulse to be available again or should I get another 9070xt?
 
At this point, at 2025 pricing, I really don’t know what my next hardware will be.
A ruinous new PC ? A Deck ? A fucking console ?

2500 for a gaming PC is a good 1000 too high.

If you don't have a Deck or something similar to take its place, I'd vote the Deck. I recently built a 9800X3D build and have a 3090 and I still play more games on the Deck.
 
with the watercooling (i just care about noise levels, especially because it will sit on the desk right/behind me instead and not on the floor) it would have 7 fans. 3 front, 3 top, 1 back.

Do you think I should wait for the Pulse to be available again or should I get another 9070xt?

Honestly the gpu is the easiest part to mount, it's basically plug & play, so you can get it from anywhere else and just slot it in and plug the power cables in yourself without any issues.
But I'd really consider looking someplace else that doesn't charge you 200€ for assembly, that's insane and an upgraded part by itself.
 
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Honestly the gpu is the easiest part to mount, it's basically plug & play, so you can get it from anywhere else and just slot it in and plug the power cables in yourself without any issues.
But I'd really consider looking someplace else that doesn't charge you 200€ for assembly, that's insane and an upgraded part by itself.
I looked but nowhere else has the freedom to pick all the parts.
And sometimes because of that the price is even higher.
And some configurators also just show "any vendor" on the GPU! and if you pick for example their preferred choice the Gigabyte variant, it is 100€ - 200€ pricier than the "any vendor" pick. WTF

For example the NVIDIA 5070 TI from the other configurator:
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with the AMD GPU its "only" 50-100€ difference, but still, WTF!


(and picking this configurator I don't get the specific parts, and it is still 150€ pricier than alternate without assambly.
 
What do you mean? Why would you willingly void the warranty? Can't you just make a RMA claim and get a replacement?
If you're afraid of availability, it seems to be a lot better now than a couple months ago, at least in europe. In the us things are still dire from what I understand.
Asus is best known for awful post sell support. They void warranties almost for anything.
 
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I looked but nowhere else has the freedom to pick all the parts.
And sometimes because of that the price is even higher.
And some configurators also just show "any vendor" on the GPU! and if you pick for example their preferred choice the Gigabyte variant, it is 100€ - 200€ pricier than the "any vendor" pick. WTF

For example the NVIDIA 5070 TI from the other configurator:
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with the AMD GPU its "only" 50-100€ difference, but still, WTF!


(and picking this configurator I don't get the specific parts, and it is still 150€ pricier than alternate without assambly.

German shops are weird... :fearful-face:
How about trying shops from other countries? I'm fairly certain most will ship to Germany and you may get better prices and more part variety.
 
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